Lighten up, we are 5 pages in and a couple of light hearted comments don't detract from the rest of the discussion. It's not a scientific paper.I understand that there is a lot of Snakeoil in hifi and you guys are having a good joke but it might be better if you start another thread and leave this thread to integrated amps. I have found the previous comments helpful in deciding on my next amp and hopefully others have as well.