Election night 2019 / aftermath

[gavreid]

Patronising much?

What? I mean't getting a public school boy to represent a mining community or Mandelson in Hartlepool...

 

[Weekender]

“An incontinent mess of unbelievable policies” £160k pa (plus perks) trade union trough-feeder Len McCluskey on Labour’s manifesto (HuffPost)!

Cancelled my Union membership of 28 years today. Never liked Dave Prentiss. Up to his ears in it.

 

[gavreid]

Cancelled my Union membership of 28 years today. Never liked Dave Prentiss. Up to his ears in it.

Attacked the left for years, w*nker. You're on the bottle aren't you? Don't make hasty decisions

 

[Weekender]

What? I mean't getting a public school boy to represent a mining community or Mandelson in Hartlepool...

You said NE Labour has always been very parochial.

 

[wacko]

Labour, to be worth electing, needs to be offering something different at the other end of the political spectrum, not simply a variation on Liberals and Tories.
Otherwise you just swap rosettes - no point whatsoever.

There is no difference between the Blair 'third way' and so called One Nation Conservatism.

If the public reject a socialist vision, you don't abandon it, you try harder!

What does 'try harder' mean ? Labour wasn't really trying this time ?
No Party can win in a FPTP system without winning more of the middle ground than the other Party.
Blair won 3 consecutive elections. Are you saying there is no difference between Blair and BJ ?

 

[gavreid]

You said NE Labour has always been very parochial.

Very true, very conservative

 

[JustJohn]

If the public reject a socialist vision, you don't abandon it, you try harder!

As if things weren't bad enough, I now have a vision of not seeing anything resembling a Labour government for at least the next 20 years.

 

[Robert]

The political centre around the world has been in decline for many years - it has certainly collapsed in the UK.
It collapsed because it offers nothing.

 

[Arkless Electronics]

I guess it's fitting that the anti-christ should choose Friday 13th....

 

[Robert]

As if things weren't bad enough, I now have a vision of not seeing anything resembling a Labour government for at least the next 20 years.

We haven't seen anything resembling a real Labour Government for many decades!

 

[gavreid]

As if things weren't bad enough, I now have a vision of not seeing anything resembling a Labour government for at least the next 20 years.

Give over man - join in the fight

 

[Weekender]

Very true, very conservative

Hubris.

 

[gavreid]

I can tell who's on the bottle by the way...

 

[wacko]

The political centre around the world has been in decline for many years - it has certainly collapsed in the UK.
It collapsed because it offers nothing.

Well left leaning supporters/parties will have to rebuild that political centre. Without it fear and hate will result in divide and conquer right leaning Governments around the world.

 

[Ponty]

Johnson will play the long game with Scotland.

He will try to bring prosperity and stability to all of the UK in order to diffuse the clamour for independence by the time of the next GE. I will watch with interest.

Ray

I can’t see Boris offering any form of indyref2 for Scotland. What exactly will Sturgeon do if he just keeps flatly refusing? She has no leverage, surely?

 

[JustJohn]

We haven't seen anything resembling a real Labour Government for many decades!

FFS, I give up! I'm not on the bottle yet but I will be shortly.

 

[eisenach]

You could have had that laugh back in 2016 when the article was written, of course.

Ah, yes, but I hadn't seen it then.

 

[Weekender]

I can tell who's on the bottle by the way...

It's Friday.

 

[gavreid]

Hubris.

Are you trying to tell me that they invited say a national anti-apartheid march in Newcastle? I helped to organise the national demonstration in Manchester shortly before the collapse of the white regime. That boring b*stard Norman Willis droned on for 40 minutes until everyone had left.

 

[gavreid]

It's Friday.

I'll join you - have one for me