Dog attacks "skyrocketing", now "an unrecognised public health crisis"
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Sounds terrible Gordon, hope you are over it now.
As a dog owner I'm gobsmacked at some of the behaviour of other dog owners, only the other night I had a guy join me and my dog on a walk at the local golf course, he has a year old springer spaniel and the dog was jumping all over me and biting me after my own dog ignored it's attempts to get him to 'play' with him this jumping and biting episode lasted for a good 15minutes whilst the owner was on the phone and not once did he stop his phone call to get his dog under control.
The dog clearly wanted attention from the owner, my dog or me and it ended up hassling me for that attention.
I had another incident in the same place about a month ago same thing only this time it was an older lab the owner was literally about two hundred yards away and out of sight of his dog jumping all over me and my wife but of course when I remonstrated with him at first he sort of apologised then he got all indignant when I told him he should have his dog on a leash and under control.
There really are some right arsehole dog owners out there who really don't have clue how to control a dog.
Then there is the throwing dog poop bags all over the place or just not lifting dog poop in fact I've watched dog owners so engrossed in their phones that they don't even see their dogs shitting all over the place.
The hounds used in fox hunting are well socialised with people and are no threat to children or grown ups. All dogs could potentially be dangerous for many reasons via both genetic (nature) and nurture. There are several breeds that are unsuitable as domestic pets but may find useful work elsewhere. The owners are 100% to blame either through blissful ignorance or deliberately. I think the dog license should be re introduced and potential owners vetted, along with closing down puppy farms and the import of dogs and puppies from overseas, unless licenced.
Brown Bottle
UTB
We have a Cavapoo too. We're lucky that we can walk a long way, close to home and not see anyone, so we rarely come across aggressive dogs. We leave ours off the lead unless an approaching dog is on a lead or I don't like the look of the other dog. Our dog is pretty neutral towards other dogs unless they're other poodle/crosses, to which she's quite inquisitive. The people who annoy me are the ones who let their dog run off in front and then be over friendly when they approach you, when the owners catch up they talk to the dog as if it's a mischievous toddler.
Cheers BB
sean99
pfm Member
Awful story and glad you got compensated. The gaping hole is that non home-owners have no insurance, and I think many of the attack dogs are owned by non home owners. In reality my mandatory insurance requirement would just make it a lot easier for the police to confiscate problem dogs before an attack takes place on the grounds of lack of liability insurance.
I've only ever experienced one dodgy dog in the last six years of dog ownership Frank and that was one of those weird looking things with the no ears/ears swept right back, the guy had two of them and one them attacked my own dog in like literally seconds cutting his ear which required stitches and a vet bill over £250 plus numerous vet visits afterwards although the guy did stump up £170 but he told that was all he was paying, he clearly had no insurance though.
Nearly every dog I've met since has been okay but I've met plenty of idiot owners.
Small dogs are usually more aggressive/psychotic than large dogs. I've only been bitten once and it was a small dog.
However I agree that large dogs can cause more damage (even though it is usually the breeders/owners fault): if a dog bites a human it should be put down and the owner banned from owning a dog for 5-10 years with appropriate penalties if they ignore the ban.
However I agree that large dogs can cause more damage (even though it is usually the breeders/owners fault): if a dog bites a human it should be put down and the owner banned from owning a dog for 5-10 years with appropriate penalties if they ignore the ban.
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Don't really agree with this above the dog bites because it's defending itself some humans can't be trusted around animals and children and other adults.
My wife's workmate had to have her dog put down last week cause her neighbour who is a retired policeman 'manufactured' a biting incident by putting his hand through the fence between his garden and the neighbour's garden, the dog bit him on the hand and he threatened to call the police because he had injuries to his thumb and hand and had photos so she had no option and had the dog euthanised.
Clearly something going on there between the two of them but she's a single mother and he's a retired cop.
sean99
pfm Member
Really sorry to read that. I think pepper spray is illegal in the UK, but perhaps this stuff might help
https://www.police-supplies.co.uk/k917-dog-deterrent-spray
Cav
pfm Member
Choke chains are not banned, but do not seem to be fashionable. Many people seem to use harnesses or breastplate affairs which means if the dog is stronger than you, you are not really in control. I am sure we have all seen owners being taken for a walk (or drag) by their dog...
narabdela
who?
Sorry. I've been reading this excuse for years now, and, with the greatest respect, I think it's bollocks.
Yes, there are people who shouldn't be allowed to own dogs, but some dogs are inherently dangerous and should be banned.
There was a famous case here in Scotland around 1990 in which two Rotweillers killed a young girl in Dunoon and the family fought for years to have the dangerous dog act brought in, Doyle, I think their name was.
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Lynch are the family.
The two dogs were later put down by Dunoon vet Mr Tony Black.
He said: ''Most Rottweilers that I know I have never had any trouble
with.
''But every vet in the country knows that with Rottweilers, Dobermans
and Alsatians, and guard dogs in general, you always have to be a bit
careful because you know what they can do.
''Most such dogs don't give you any hassle, but you are always that
bit wary.
''It is the first time I have been involved in anything like this in
the area. I am shattered, and everybody in the whole area is
shattered.''
It is understood that Kelly and Lorraine were on holiday at the hotel.
Mr Simpson has owned the small hotel for several years and breeds
Rottweilers in kennels nearby.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news...-young-girl-to-death-girl-killed-by-pet-dogs/
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
Accuphase all the way down
There's a popular programme on UK television called 'Dogs behaving (very) badly' or something similar. It's always about dogs which their owners can't control*, and it's always down to the owners, not the dogs. Dogs, like children, need boundaries, and need to understand what you want and expect by way of acceptable behaviour. If you fail to give the proper signals as to what is required and what is unacceptable, it's unfair to blame the dog for responding to what it interprets in the messages it receives.
So banning dogs is not the answer. Frankly, banning stuff rarely is, as it so often falls into that category of 'simple, obvious, and wrong' solutions.
*and it's almost always 'naughtiness' rather than aggression.
So banning dogs is not the answer. Frankly, banning stuff rarely is, as it so often falls into that category of 'simple, obvious, and wrong' solutions.
*and it's almost always 'naughtiness' rather than aggression.
Seeker_UK
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans
My info is out of date (it was from 2016) https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/dog-most-likely-bite-you-8535166
The reason for the number is more to do with the fact it was the most popular dog in the UK. That has changed so it may be a different breed of dog that attacks mope often.
https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/news-and-events/media-centre/press-releases/be-dog-safe/
In terms of likelihood, the ones most likey to bite are:
1. Jack Russell
2. Staffordshire Bull Terrier
3. Pitt Bull Terrier
4. German Shepherd
5. Rottweiler
Source https://www.starlimited.co.uk/blog/the-5-most-dangerous-dog-breeds-in-the-uk/ (citing Merseyside Police, date U/K)
Cav
pfm Member
Which dogs are "are inherently dangerous", and who says so, and why?