Has there been any solid advice on how to get the region out of tier 3 back to 2? I've heard zero mention of it, even when the R rate comes down.
So that must mean that we had more cases than France 4 weeks ago I suppose. And so more now. But why didn’t it show up as more cases, given we’re testing more? Don’t understand.
Unless Brits are less healthy, a more vulnerable population. I think there’s some evidence for that.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...er-accused-of-calling-tory-mp-scum-in-commons
Watch your tone.
Never mind the dead bodies.
Ahem...my point for quite some time now but very few appear to get it.The new intake of Tory MPs really are scum:
https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1318968577156911104
https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1318925271291121667
Both gained seats from Labour in 2019.
If you still believe fairy tales about the Conservative Party ever returning to moderation and the centre ground, just look at the new breed of far-right populists. This is the future unless we all unite to stop it.
Angela Rayner was right.
I would imagine that if you get the rate back below 400/100k then it's back to T2. Tough though, how this will be achieved in practice is anyone's guess. Let's be honest, if you get R down to 0.9 with an infectious window of 2 weeks, that means that it takes 2 weeks to get from 500 to 450, another 2 weeks for 400, another 2 weeks for 350. 6 weeks minimum even if you achieve a step change in behaviour across the population.Has there been any solid advice on how to get the region out of tier 3 back to 2? I've heard zero mention of it, even when the R rate comes down.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...er-accused-of-calling-tory-mp-scum-in-commons
Watch your tone.
Never mind the dead bodies.
Look you may have a soft spot for the Guardian and yes it is better than most, but they all do the same thing to one degree or another. They ran a piece very similar 3/4 weeks ago, it's really not news to anyone that keeps themselves abreast of the situation and anyway the article contains a lot of negative hypotheticals. At the end of the day a vaccine will help massively and while I am the first to say we won't ever eradicate the virus we will be better able to live with it after the provision of a reliable vaccine. Yes, planning for not having one is sensible, but planning for having one is important too.
It was always going to end in tiers.
Angela Rayner was right.
. The thing to worry about now is if, and how quickly the death count goes up from here as the hopitalisations have been growing exponentially all month.
Just to chew over the first of your Salisbury quotes for a moment (I've added quotation marks, as the pfm quote function italicises anyway): Do we need to 'stop transmission'?Perhaps, you could critique David Salisbury's article and point out where he is wrong here and in his other calculations?
For example
"To stop transmission, we must vaccinate anyone who can transmit infection. Anything less means that our goal is only individual protection and not the interruption of transmission. A recent announcement from the head of the UK vaccine taskforce, that the strategy will be targeted vaccination, makes it abundantly clear that the UK vaccine strategy at the moment is not to try to interrupt transmission, despite having hundreds of millions of Covid-19 vaccine doses on contract. With less than 10% of the population showing evidence of having been infected, targeted vaccination will not allow “life as previously usual” to return."
or
"Vaccines protect individuals against disease and hopefully also against infection, but no vaccine is 100% effective. To know what proportion of a community would be immune after a vaccination programme is a numbers game – we must multiply the proportion of a population vaccinated by how effective the vaccine is." (and then the evidence he uses to back this up)
I agree we need to tackle both pathways. But at the moment, we seem to be focussing all our hopes on one. It's the Government (and other populist leader's) fault for 'bigging up' vaccination as a 'silver bullet', of course. Eventually, the Government will be forced into following proper mitigation measures. The alternative is too horrifying to contemplate.