Tony L
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I rather liked that too. They remind me of something, but as ever I can’t quite place it. Kind of a bit Sonic Youth-ish, but with almost Flying Lizards-grade deadpan female vocal.
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I rather liked that too. They remind me of something, but as ever I can’t quite place it. Kind of a bit Sonic Youth-ish, but with almost Flying Lizards-grade deadpan female vocal.
JensenHealey
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I thought they were great - had it up on the hifi and I thought it was thrilling.
Now BBC4 got a long programme on Robert Plant - very good
Now BBC4 got a long programme on Robert Plant - very good
Ponty
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Indeed. Her band on that set were A1 (loved the drummer).
Tony L
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I really can not cope with that much autotune!
Ponty
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God it was awful wasn’t it.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
I didn't really understand the hyper-autotuned thing until I discovered that rappers like Travis Scott track their vocals with the autotune fed back into their cans - i.e. they're deliberately playing it almost like an instrument rather than using it to 'correct' the vocal.
Still not for me but it makes a bit more sense.
It was utterly dreadful. I have rather mixed feelings about Strange Fruit but that was an abomination.
Tony L
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It seems to have become a distinct thing of its own, just as say guitar distortion did. Another tool in the ever-expanding box. I feel it is hopelessly over-used at present, but it fits perfectly with say Daft Punk etc. It is a effect that arrived long after I’d stopped fiddling around in studios so I never got to play with it. I’d love to throw some drum-loops etc through it. Back in the 90s I had access to a now legendary and absurdly collectable Roland VP-330 Vocoder, and that was a lovely and creative thing if you totally avoided the hackneyed ‘Mr Blue Sky’ crap and fed non-voice stuff through it (rhythms, samples, textures etc). No musical instrument is ‘bad’, the thing is to avoid cliches and fashion. I’m sure autotune is all over Aphex Twin, Squarepusher and countless other electronica pioneers, we just don’t recognise it as it’s not some crap singer singing through it!
Stunsworth
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There’s a new programme about Billie tonight on the Beeb.
Joe Hutch
Mate of the bloke
I read the second name as 'Neil Diamond'. [note to self: book eye-test].
Tony L
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Thanks for that, I’d likely have missed that as I have a semi-drunken Zoom meeting booked with some friends tonight!
Weekender
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I never made the connection before but watching last night I thought Amy Winehouse's style was influenced by Jill Scott. Just IMO. The Mrs was watching and agreed anyway.
Andrew C!
Been around a while....
This show actually introduced me to some good new stuff. I’ve mentioned it on a similar thread to this one. Caravan Palace, Christine and the Queens, Royal Blood to name but 3...
I never watch it ‘live’ - always record it and fast forward thru the stuff I don’t like.
I never watch it ‘live’ - always record it and fast forward thru the stuff I don’t like.
Not sure about that, see what you mean re that performance but Jill Scott albums are very different from Winehouse. Really liked Back to Black, never quite seen anyone like her in terms of persona versus quality of output.
One thing for sure, Jill Scott wouldn’t stand for the shit Winehouse had to put up with. I remember being in a pub with my dad, there was a turn on, quite a decent folk singer; I remember her saying what a shame it was about her death & ‘she had a lot of songs still to sing’. That has stuck in my mind to this day.
I think the song actually blighted Billie’s career (among other things). It kind of became exploitative, Simone had the benefit of a few more years of societal enlightenment; probably damaged her less.