Nic Robinson
Moderator
Everything should improve over time in this regard. But the old shark-era cars' looks did it for me. Less so most of the modern ones.
Bugs Beemer
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I was referring to your post, I’d just mid read it! Sorry.
But the E9 is my favourite shape, the E24 a more affordable close second.
There is still a need for cooling, but compared to the massive energy loss from an engine it's minimal. You can lose that into the cabin or blow it down inside the sills (Volvo used to do this as an anti corrosion measure, it worked a treat.) I think that car manufacturers just haven't yet got used to the idea that there is no longer a need for a grille and a transmission tunnel in EVs. I know that until recently there was still an EV with a shallow transmission tunnel as a carryover from the hatch. Now OK, part of that is to stiffen up the structure, but there are ways and means of dealing with that if you give designers a free rein and say "put the batteries where you like, the motors are on the wheels, the only constraints are the passenger cell and the safety regs". You might well end up with something like a VW bus, with no grille and no front engine bay.
Suffolk Tony
Aim low, achieve your goals, avoid disappointment.
So, a sneaky admiration then…
The Captain
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A sneaky admiration, then... yes (prior to 2015).
I can't start a sentence with 'So' sorry.
Capt
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
But you’re ok with unnecessary foul language in posts. Ok.
Suffolk Tony
Aim low, achieve your goals, avoid disappointment.
So what?
That's a clever design to get all the coolant air through a couple of small slots and a concealed grille under the bumper. Big engine to cool too, the 2.8. I always liked the blacked out lower half that was fashionable in the mid 80s, it was good looking and practical, my car at the time had a stonechip resistant paint below the waist.Grill-less. Must have been an EV then:
The Captain
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Actually this is the only acceptable use of starting a sentence with So. I think.
Anyway their fronts now, all look like baboons bottoms, & should rightly be mocked as mercilessly as those who choose to buy such ghastly looking vey-hickles.
Calt
They aren't. The e9 and e24, 3.0 CSL and 80s 6 series respectively, are much prettier. So is the e30 3 series in a brutalist kind of way. The 90s 3 series coupes were great, as were the 5 series of the same period (e34, 39 iirc?). Even some of the Bangle cars weren't all bad.
gintonic
50 shades of grey pussy cats
so they are. So
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
Yep, keep the airflow at the front and over the top of the car as smooth as possible.
The Captain
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Er.... well the whole point of the thread/ the opening post... is that in his opinion... they now LOOK revolting (& that they once were the very polar opposite... they used to look fabulous).
Aesthetics. Only.
This isn't some dumbass making a thread to comment in any way shape or form upon the driving experience, comfort, electronic wizardry on screens & computers, or clever suspension systems.
His pov in #1 is that it is ugly, from an onlooker's pov. It's either agree, or disagree. It really is that straightforward.
Capt
I know that there are some counterintuitive things with car cooling, in some cases the high pressure area is under the engine bay so the air actually goes out of the grille rather than in. Most odd.
Nic Robinson
Moderator
There. So there.
James
Lord of the Erg\o/s
That would be the E46, and I think that was the prettiest 3-series ever. Especially in Ci guise.