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Brexit: give me a positive effect... III

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A lot of the UKs economy is based on an asset, housing, saying it’s worth more than last week and calling it growth and wealth which is bollocks, Scotland would do well to get away from that.

Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't look like a very convincing prospectus for getting the deficit down to the 3% max required for EU membership though.
 
Mind you, I suppose that, what with Scotland being the cradle of democracy that it is, and played no part at all in the evil empire that Vicky used to survey, the EU could always be pursuaded to look the other way whilst Goldman Sachs cooks the books. Then there would be a veritable tsunami of inward investment, property prices would soar (oh bugger, that didn't work then) and a nice, fat, quivering bubble would begin to nicely take shape just in time for covid-10 to surgically pop it.

Or something along those lines.
 
Wait till you see the state of Westminster finances in 2021. Glass houses and all. It’s going to be a thumping year for the independence vote come next May but of course let’s get Brexit dun first. This is the ‘benefits of Brexit’ thread after all, don’t hide that light under a bushel..
 
Then the shining white horse, with Jean-Claude, Ursula and the permatanned permacrook Chrissie will hove into view and demand Edinburgh, Robbie Burns, Mel Gibson, the Stone of Scone, all the whisky and countless incomprehensible folk dirges at 622% Apr, repayable over 737 years. Unemployment would rocket to 193%, and something unspeakable would happen to the budget deficit. Alex Salmond will be parachuted in by the ECJ in order to oversee the removal of 20 miles width of formerly dry, rocky land once aligned with Hadrians Wall, and Nicky will wobble her head and sound very important and not a little cocky, although nobody will actually be listening.
 
Then the shining white horse, with Jean-Claude, Ursula and the permatanned permacrook Chrissie will hove into view and demand Edinburgh, Robbie Burns, Mel Gibson, the Stone of Scone, all the whisky and countless incomprehensible folk dirges at 622% Apr, repayable over 737 years. Unemployment would rocket to 193%, and something unspeakable would happen to the budget deficit. Alex Salmond will be parachuted in by the ECJ in to oversee the removal of 20 miles width of formerly dry, rocky land once aligned with Hadrians Wall, and Nicky will wobble her head and sound very important and not a little cocky, although nobody will actually be listening.
Is it the Christmas wine or Islay Malt just curious ?
 
The Christmas wine? Isn't that the one that is being picked up on the cheap by an Egyptian consortium for whom Guy Verhofstadt is working on a consultancy basis for a nifty €155,000 a year for 15 minutes lobbying a month?
 
Whilst furiously berating Noddy Nicola in the European Parliament for her dithering in the process of privatising the formerly Scot Govt owned production of Christmas wine.
 
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Wait till you see the state of Westminster finances in 2021. Glass houses and all. It’s going to be a thumping year for the independence vote come next May but of course let’s get Brexit dun first. This is the ‘benefits of Brexit’ thread after all, don’t hide that light under a bushel..
Whataboutism. :D

Anyway, what do you think can be ‘dun’ about the deficit in Scotland? Should the EU turn a blind eye to the sometimes unbreakable rules of the club?

I missed the announcement of the 2021 independence referendum in Scotland. When is it exactly?
 
Wait till you see the state of Westminster finances in 2021. Glass houses and all. It’s going to be a thumping year for the independence vote come next May but of course let’s get Brexit dun first. This is the ‘benefits of Brexit’ thread after all, don’t hide that light under a bushel..
If the deficit in Scotland per person is still about £2000 pa (2018/19 figures,i could not find more upto date figures in the Guardian) and there are about 2.46 million households, then i suppose the new independent government could always slap a £4000 pa increase on the council tax? Independence has its price and as you say the UK is about to experience.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...8-deficit-higher-than-uk-as-a-whole-last-year
 
Then the shining white horse, with Jean-Claude, Ursula and the permatanned permacrook Chrissie will hove into view and demand Edinburgh, Robbie Burns, Mel Gibson, the Stone of Scone, all the whisky and countless incomprehensible folk dirges at 622% Apr, repayable over 737 years. Unemployment would rocket to 193%, and something unspeakable would happen to the budget deficit. Alex Salmond will be parachuted in by the ECJ in order to oversee the removal of 20 miles width of formerly dry, rocky land once aligned with Hadrians Wall, and Nicky will wobble her head and sound very important and not a little cocky, although nobody will actually be listening.
Remarkable bibulosity, the flight of ideas and the exaggerated metaphors even fruitier than normal.
 
I guess all we can do when we have fvcked up, is wish similar misfortune on others.

Oh and Colin, given that your approach to finance (large and small) is to cut your legs off to save the cost of shoes, perhaps stick to the emotional rationale?
 
Responsibility for my what vote?

For what reason should I reveal a private vote to anyone who is able to read this forum?

Anyway, it’s always good to see a ‘new member’ settling in and being so readily ‘liked’ by a section of the membership.

Next..

No one is asking you to reveal your vote (though your hard remainer 'issues' suggest it was Leave). So, are you going to take responsibility for your Leave vote?

PS Your "next" mantra - is that the result of a career spent as a receptionist in a large waiting room? You mentioned secretary in one of your previous posts so I thought I'd ask for the sake of clarity.
 
I guess all we can do when we have fvcked up, is wish similar misfortune on others.

Oh and Colin, given that your approach to finance (large and small) is to cut your legs off to save the cost of shoes, perhaps stick to the emotional rationale?

This just about sums the whole Brexit debacle up.
 
It rather begs the question- how could a country (by comparison with Scotland, governed for a decade by the party purportedly of business and sound public finances) embark on such a nationalist project with huge economic consequences? Brexit will be delivered stillborn on 1 January 2021. Out of the wreckage a very different British Isles will emerge and the stresses won’t simply be across borders. Even within England there is no majority in favour of Brexit. It must feel like a lunatic has hijacked the bus and you can’t get off.
 
Whataboutism. :D

Anyway, what do you think can be ‘dun’ about the deficit in Scotland? Should the EU turn a blind eye to the sometimes unbreakable rules of the club?

I missed the announcement of the 2021 independence referendum in Scotland. When is it exactly?
I think the 2021 Scottish Parliament election is being referred to here as a "barometer" for any further moves toward a referendum.
Oh, and of course, the Brexit effect.
 
An SNP landslide, big losses by the Tories, and a return to significance by Labour, I predict. Of course, the effects of Johnson's "negotiations" will be clear by May, but the Tories will also hurt from the loss of Ruth Davidson as Conservative leader in what is a more progressive and moderate electorate than that of England. Labour in Scotland never took to Jeremy Corbyn, and Kier Starmer may be able to reclaim the support that Corbyn's London-centric "University Socialism" couldn't deliver for the party in Scotland.

I think it's still dangerous to assume than an SNP landslide means a mandate for Independence, though. SNP's growth has been on the basis of capturing a sizeable chunk of the Liberal vote as well as the centrist Labour and Conservative voters - all of those groups like SNP's evidence-based approach to government policy and its progressive policies, but they would not necessarily support Scotland leaving the UK.
 
Remarkable bibulosity, the flight of ideas and the exaggerated metaphors even fruitier than normal.

His Master's voice. Twice in a week too! I am on a roll.

It rather begs the question- how could a country (by comparison with Scotland, governed for a decade by the party purportedly of business and sound public finances) embark on such a nationalist project with huge economic consequences? Brexit will be delivered stillborn on 1 January 2021. Out of the wreckage a very different British Isles will emerge and the stresses won’t simply be across borders. Even within England there is no majority in favour of Brexit. It must feel like a lunatic has hijacked the bus and you can’t get off.

What was that other metaphor, the one relating to pots and kettles?
 
No one is asking you to reveal your vote (though your hard remainer 'issues' suggest it was Leave). So, are you going to take responsibility for your Leave vote?

PS Your "next" mantra - is that the result of a career spent as a receptionist in a large waiting room? You mentioned secretary in one of your previous posts so I thought I'd ask for the sake of clarity.
Your obsession with me is boring, but I’ll play along and reply to you once again.

Responsibility for my what vote?

I don’t have an issue with hard remainers that suggests how I voted, or influenced how I voted.

Next..
 
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