Careful now, the wrath of fw will be upon you...tsk, tskWell I’d guess people would stop buying it? Or is the world full of gullible people?
No-one serious about hifi uses measurements alone.
................ they just made stuff and sold it and people liked it and recommended it............ No measurements were demanded, people just auditioned. And many of these companies prospered..
You misunderstand entirely and perhaps deliberately. This thread did not start, and my posts have never been about, my switch. You can say whatever you want as many times as you want about switches in general but your now repeated pops at me regarding something I have neither promoted nor described are unwarranted and tasteless goading.Perhaps you should start a trade thread about it if you want to limit what opinion people can give.
Maybe pay Tony for the 96 pages of free ad you've had from this thread. After all you think it's about your product already ..
I’m quite happy for anyone to measure anything, I just won’t be doing so myself.That statement hinges around that last word.
I get the impression that you consider that your product should not be subject to measurements at all...... but then I confess to not having read all the pages of this thread.
That is not my remembrance of the treatment of true hifi products in the market place. Magazines originally had much more rigor than they later came to have and their reviews did go as far as measuring claims for verasity. The manufactures also measured their products as they built them.
All this ^^^ if we are talking about coherent products , amps , tuners , speakers and such. The product that came later to ride upon the back of the hifi wave for a free ride ...products like cables , interconnects , hifi furniture and the like were probably created as you say by people in sheds and just put out into the market place and sold mainly on hyperbole and faith. But that is just my memory of things.
The odd thing is that this thread was started by @beameup it never had anythign to do with @TheFlash . Except he seems to be sitting on top of it proprietorially as though he were the OP, AND complaining that people are personalising it. In any other situation the extraordarily egregious mixtue of attention-seeking and illogic would be remarkable. But it's surprisingly fitting here.Perhaps you should start a trade thread about it if you want to limit what opinion people can give.
Maybe pay Tony for the 96 pages of free ad you've had from this thread. After all you think it's about your product already ..
All I have “sat atop of” is a polite request that this is not turned into a personal attack because of my temerity in moving into the trade. Please desist from this bitchiness.The odd thing is that this thread was started by @beameup it never had anythign to do with @TheFlash . Except he seems to be sitting on top of it proprietorially as though he were the OP, AND complaining that people are personalising it. In any other situation the extraordarily egregious mixtue of attention-seeking and illogic would be remarkable. But it's surprisingly fitting here.
The odd thing is that this thread was started by @beameup it never had anythign to do with @TheFlash . Except he seems to be sitting on top of it proprietorially as though he were the OP, AND complaining that people are personalising it. In any other situation the extraordarily egregious mixtue of attention-seeking and illogic would be remarkable. But it's surprisingly fitting here.
Most impartial observers (in the rational world) would not conclude that your "temerity in moving into the trade" is the issue here, though you understandably feel the need to frame it like that.All I have “sat atop of” is a polite request that this is not turned into a personal attack because of my temerity in moving into the trade.
Why would people feel they are entitled to have a problem with somebody pursuing what they see as a reasonable business opportunity? That's industrial quantities of hubris, right there. As is the presumption that yours is the only rational view, shared by the majority of impartial observers.Most impartial observers (in the rational world) would not conclude that your "temerity in moving into the trade" is the issue here, though you understandably feel the need to frame it like that.
All I have “sat atop of” is a polite request that this is not turned into a personal attack because of my temerity in moving into the trade. Please desist from this bitchiness.
I was hinting at the possibility that the problem would be something else.Why would people feel they are entitled to have a problem with somebody pursuing what they see as a reasonable business opportunity?
Why would people feel they are entitled to have a problem with somebody pursuing what they see as a reasonable business opportunity?
All good fun and not to be taken very seriously.
The ongoing problem is deciding whether the detractors here are qualified to “talk sense to them” which does sound rather patronising by the way. There seem to be no end of internet experts/keyboard crusaders and often those with the noisiest opinions are the most coy about why they consider themselves qualified to “talk sense to them”. That’s not to decry those here with highly relevant knowledge, experience and expertise in the subject, although they seem to take a less definitive stance.If only. Unfortunately there are those who do seem to take it seriously. Therein lies the ongoing problem. Does one try and talk sense to them, or does one adopt the "It's their money" approach?