The Chronicals
Disruptor
It I break something, I will blame you. Just sayin'
Amarra, Roon, Audirvana, or something else?
- Thread starter Chris P
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It I break something, I will blame you. Just sayin'
Cereal Killer
432
Glad to be of service bud 
You could always trial this with your laptop by downloading the Windows roonserver version?
PS, Try it on battery only and try both USB inputs.
You could always trial this with your laptop by downloading the Windows roonserver version?
PS, Try it on battery only and try both USB inputs.
mandryka
pfm Member
That’s good to hear.
manicatel
pfm Member
Yes, with no dsp configured, flat etc it sounds better than AV+ to me. A bit less forward/ edgy.
Yes, the UI is wayyyy slicker & better than anything else I’ve tried.
Yes, trial it yourself when you have the time.
I trialled it with a large degree of scepticism & especially wrt the price. After two weeks or so, there was no way back to AV+ for me.
mandryka
pfm Member
That’s a weakness. Spotify is useful not only because it includes a lot of music which Qobuz lacks, but also because its tagging is better than Qobuz, and its search facility is IMO more intuitive, ultimately and ironically this making it sometimes more possible to find music on Qobuz (because you see to search Qobuz via tags you may not have thought of yourself! And you can use the Spotify metadata to find it in Qobuz) So it looks like, for this reason, Roon is not for me.
YouTube I can live without!
mandryka
pfm Member
Thanks but see my post above.
Cereal Killer
432
Doubt Spotify will ever be integrated into roon, its still lossy isn't it?
The Chronicals
Disruptor
Glad to be of service bud
You could always trial this with your laptop by downloading the Windows roonserver version?
PS, Try it on battery only and try both USB inputs.
Windows? I have to use a PC, thats against my religion.
Just looking at the USB on the QNAP, according to this video, it says its not a direct access port?
mandryka
pfm Member
It is, and the sound is poor, nevertheless it is for me essential for the reasons above.
The last time I tried Tidal the search engine and tagging was worse than Qobuz, and even the order of tracks in an album was often wrong. since then Qobuz has deteriorated so maybe the difference is not so marked. Still, I’ve not yet come across a case in Qobuz with the tracks out of order.
Other people I know who listen to classical music have reported similar problems with Qobuz and Tidal metadata and search, it may well be less of an issue in other genres.
Cereal Killer
432
It is if you have QNAPs mediaserver installed ( i also have dbpoweramp's asset6.2 installed for uPNP duties). Then you can also create a share folder for movies and have them picked up by your smart DLNA/TV. This how i have mine setup.
Thinking there's a MAC OS version too.... see:
https://roonlabs.com/downloads.html
I mostly listen to classical music, mostly from Qobuz ( though usually through Roon). I’ve not encountered any issues with metadata or search that I couldn't live with or accomodate to. Roon does have acknowledged issues with the speed of search. Given that just about everyone who likes classical music has a perfectly reasonable but completely different idea of how metadata and search should work it’s perhaps not surprising that some folk have problems accomodating. But I can usually find what I am looking for much quicker than I ever could in Tower Records.
davidjt
pfm Member
This seems to be largely about Roon now, but fwiw I was a fan of JRiver until I updated to jrmc25: now it freezes regularly and won't load any URL, and I'm looking to replace it. The business model was built on relentless development, and to my mind it's now way too big, too complicated and has too many facilities I'll never use.
(I loathe Windows for the same reason - has anyone successfully used that thumb drive loaded with linux(?))
(I loathe Windows for the same reason - has anyone successfully used that thumb drive loaded with linux(?))
I was a J River fan too, but I can’t see they have a future since they refuse to embrace streaming. And it certainly is overloaded. Reading between the lines I think the boss wants to throw in the towel.
https://yabb.jriver.com/interact/index.php/topic,121777.0.html
Chris P
pfm Member
Spotify has a variety of selection and great features to never stop listen to the music. But I’m my opinion Qobuz’s sound quality simply can’t be compared to Spotify.
Chris P
pfm Member
Why I still think Amarra is a no brainer when it comes to sound quality?
In my opinion Roon sound is a bit aggressive compared to Amarra.
When I try same songs back to back from Roon and Amarra, Amarra always win me over.
Although, I agree roon’s functionality is superb with modern features when Amarra simply don’t care about this.
But to me is the quality of sound over easiness of use.
In my opinion Roon sound is a bit aggressive compared to Amarra.
When I try same songs back to back from Roon and Amarra, Amarra always win me over.
Although, I agree roon’s functionality is superb with modern features when Amarra simply don’t care about this.
But to me is the quality of sound over easiness of use.
Cereal Killer
432
Neither software should have a sound if setup correctly
What DAC do you have that is so sensitive to the player?
mandryka
pfm Member
I agree
Chris P
pfm Member
Hi Andy,
I have a Teac ud 501 and a Nad s170. Not the most expensive I can say but they do the job.
But I tried the software on a friend who s got a chord Dave.
I could hear the difference..
mandryka
pfm Member
This sounds very reasonable, but maybe someone who knows better will explain why it isn’t a priori true and that the people who claim otherwise aren’t just deceiving themselves.
There’s a certain feeling of déjà vu about all of this.