F1 is about teams, drivers, money, politics, race tactics by drivers and teams, driver and employee changes, people being sacked, a few crashes, the rich and famous not to mention the odd falling out or an exchange of very heated opinions and of course a favourite driver or country that one prefers to support.
I don't see any other threads on PFM about any other form of motor sport, so F1 must being doing something right to be able to have as much debate on here as it does.
F1 is about teams, drivers, money, politics, race tactics by drivers and teams, driver and employee changes, people being sacked, a few crashes, the rich and famous not to mention the odd falling out or an exchange of very heated opinions and of course a favourite driver or country that one prefers to support.
I don't see any other threads on PFM about any other form of motor sport, so F1 must being doing something right to be able to have as much debate on here as it does.
If you take a look at the grids through the whole history of F1, they're littered with long forgotten teams. It's just the way it is.
Can you imagine how tough the BTCC is? And that's with all manner of attempts to make it "affordable". Most teams spend hundreds of thousands and watch the same few drivers win each year. Le Mans? The same. When did a good amateur last win MotoGP and have a shot at the championship?
Out of interest. What are the collective views on starting races if it's raining behind the safety car?
Problem is you have the three tiers of performers at the moments, Red Bull, Merc and Ferrrari fighting for the top 6 grid slots, 5 midfield teams and a couple of stragglers, although the stragglers are now beginning to merge with the mid table runners.
The difference in performance from top to bottom is not far away from the Turbo v N/A cars of the late eighties who ran their own races and pissed a lot of fans off.
It's sad that in 2010 the budget cap was overturned. Litespeed who saw the writing on the wall had their entry taken over by Maylasia/Lotus Racing/Team Lotus/Caterham.
They tooled up with Mike Gascoyne and a host of other well respected F1 personnel and had a queue of top drivers wanting the seat.
They even attracted top names from McLaren too. I was gutted to see them 5 seconds off the pace year upon year with no real steps forward
My mates lad worked for XTrack so by default Team Lotus and had first hand experience of just how one sided things were as he travelled the circuits with them. Lotus/Caterham were no mugs but simply financially out of their depth. Fernandes took flack but very little he could do.
I'm still amazed they get grids of 20 if things are the same as they were 3 years ago.
I worked in F1 for 25 years and knew noone who thought that team Lotus would hit the ground running. /QUOTE]
Seems like I was receiving biased and maybe hopeful opinions then from the good lads I knew who worked there
I did not know or speak to anyone from anywhere else in the industry.
Whatever you say, Matthew.That's a Brexit thread level logic fail right there Patrick
Hardly. The NFL model is all about protecting the interests of the franchise holders. There is no penalty for failure at all.Which is the NFL model.
Whatever you say, Matthew.
Hardly. The NFL model is all about protecting the interests of the franchise holders.
There is no penalty for failure at all.
I don't see any other threads on PFM about any other form of motor sport, so F1 must being doing something right to be able to have as much debate on here as it does.
Long threads more often than not indicate contrary or equivocal views. There is no long thread when people agree.
So one might equally infer that F1 is getting something wrong.
NASCAR is run primarily as entertainment like the NFL. The main aim is to sell beer and get close competition like the NFL. You can accentuate the differences if you wish, but if NFL-style manipulation could make NASCAR 'better', they are doing it or have tried it I'm sure.But the NFL and Nascar are only related in as much as they are both American so you are making a very obvious and simple logic error.