Cav
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I remember it as Jos the Boss. Stirring the pot?He was often referred to as "Joss the Toss" when he was racing. Not much seems to have changed.
He certainly seems to be stirring the pot.
I remember it as Jos the Boss. Stirring the pot?He was often referred to as "Joss the Toss" when he was racing. Not much seems to have changed.
He certainly seems to be stirring the pot.
I remember it as Jos the Boss. Stirring the pot?
While this seems unlikely it is not impossible and Wolff has already been seen talking to the Verstappens although he insists this was no more than a social chat, but who know?
Wolff should be approaching Newey.
He may well do, but if you get one you will quite likely get the other... Newey would come with a hefty period of gardening leave though. Personally I think if this does continue to blow up Newey may well decide to retire... he's talked about it several times before.
Anyway this is all speculation as we don't have any conclusive proof that Horner has done anything to warrant being ousted from the team and 'innocent until proven guilty' and all that.
I haven't seen the so called text exchanges and other 'evidence', but more importantly I haven't seen any statement as to the validity of them. The very fact you claim them to be solid evidence yet won't post them here tells us all we need to know. Once again you are letting your bias slew your viewpoint.Have we not? We certainly have unless you dont feel he has done anything wrong in the text messages.
Id post them here but Tony gets scared about stuff like that, however you can find them quite easily online.
If one think ls his behaviour is appropriate thats their moral standing explained I guess.
I haven't seen the so called text exchanges and other 'evidence', but more importantly I haven't seen any statement as to the validity of them. The very fact you claim them to be solid evidence yet won't post them here tells us all we need to know. Once again you are letting your bias slew your viewpoint.
At the end of the day if Horner has done something to warrant dismissal then fine, he absolutely should be dismissed, but I would rather wait for the complete facts to emerge. As Clive said above the fact that Jos Verstappen is behind the latest verbal attack is cause for concern given his questionable judgement in certain areas of life... I'm being polite there.
You mean Apple has released Horners text messages now ?
I haven't seen the so called text exchanges and other 'evidence', but more importantly I haven't seen any statement as to the validity of them.
All looks quite lame to me.
I’m not judging, as such. I was just expecting something meatier.To us as older men, they may do, but to a younger woman with him being her boss who is in an established powerful position it could and obviously did feel very different. We aren't really the ones to make a judgement call on if suggestively suggesting if she likes her legs stretched is acceptable or not..but it really isn't is it? Imagine if this was say your daughter in this position.
What struck me the most, is that its very evident that he knew what he was doing, he ensured he remained on the 'boundary' of risk with his suggestions, and this for me, is predatory behaviour and probably worse than the actual messages.
This is the file drop link as sent to the distribution list last week. Hopefully it is OK to link at it is in the public domain. I'll ping Tony to check though.