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Trump Part 20

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So financially strapped he can't pay income tax but he still manages to spend $70k a year to keep his comb over on his head.
 
His base is his base, the only question is how big it is. 25% of the vote? This will probably chip off a couple of per cent from his polling figures, which at this point might be enough.
 
Choice quote from The Washington Post today, in their editorial backing Biden:

In order to expel the worst president of modern times, many voters might be willing to vote for almost anybody. Fortunately, to oust president Trump in 2020, voters do not have to lower their standards.
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The article is here (you'll need to browse for free to see it). It is well worth a read if you can be bothered to circumvent the Paywall/Subscription Signup nonsense.
 
htm_1968 said:
Choice quote from The Washington Post today, in their editorial backing Biden:

In order to expel the worst president of modern times, many voters might be willing to vote for almost anybody. Fortunately, to oust president Trump in 2020, voters do not have to lower their standards.
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The article is here (you'll need to browse for free to see it). It is well worth a read if you can be bothered to circumvent the Paywall/Subscription Signup nonsense.
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Can't see any of it without a sub. Any chance you could summarise?
 
SteveS1 said:
Can't see any of it without a sub. Any chance you could summarise?
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The Guardian provide this further quote:

In contrast to Trump’s narcissism, Biden is deeply empathetic; you can’t imagine him dismissing wounded or fallen soldiers as “losers.” To Trump’s cynicism, Biden brings faith — religious faith, yes, but also faith in American values and potential.

In place of Trump’s belittling and demonizing of opponents and allies alike, Biden offers a deep commitment to finding common ground in service to making government work for the greatest number. He has demonstrated that commitment in reaching across the aisle to Republicans, and also — most recently — in bringing unity to the Democratic Party without compromising his own fundamental convictions.
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The Guardian then says that the Washington Post describe Trump’s description of Biden as a socialist as a “preposterous slander”, and state that the president has “few accomplishments in his first term and no agenda for his second”. In contrast, they posit that Biden’s “competence and honor are more important in this cycle than any particular stand on any particular issue.” The closing blast reads like this (another WP quote):

If he takes the oath in the midst of the pandemic’s second wave, as is quite possible, with the economy in a tailspin, we can be confident Biden will rise to the occasion. Why? Because when President Barack Obama and he took office in 2009, the nation was in a similarly frightening tailspin. Mr. Obama trusted his vice president to work with Congress to deliver a bipartisan recovery package and then to help administer it.​

In short, they have little or nothing positive to say about Trump, but do so in a balanced and reasonable fashion. They are fairly supportive of Biden, but again seem to be quite balanced in stating this view. I suppose I might be traduced for quoting from a Journal that leans towards the Democrats, but that is not my memory of the WP. I though it was more middle ground than that. I could be mistaken though...:oops:
 
albany said:
So financially strapped he can't pay income tax but he still manages to spend $70k a year to keep his comb over on his head.
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I don't mean to be unseemly, but I wonder if Trump has ever had VD? His hair could be a by-product of the disease. It might also explain his inability to tell the truth.

Jack
 
I imagine there will be a lot of applicants for the hairdressing gig if his current barber retires!
 
tqineil said:
EXCLUSIVE: Channel 4 News investigation reveals a huge Trump campaign data leak, exposing how 3.5 million Black Americans were listed as ‘Deterrence’ - to try to stop them voting in 2016.

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1310584937356103686?s=20
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This is an amazing/terrifying report. Cambridge Analytica right at the epicentre as one would expect with highly politicised data abuse. A classic example of how the far-right now operate.
 
Tony L said:
This is an amazing/terrifying report. Cambridge Analytica right at the epicentre as one would expect with highly politicised data abuse. A classic example of how the far-right now operate.
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Trump is a proto-fascist who must be stopped, but I found the C4 report quite frustrating.

All campaigns target voters to the best of their ability. There's nothing illegal or wrong about that, in principle - it's the nature of politics. I find the idea of using advertising to deter voters depressing and cynical but again it's not necessarily an offence. It becomes problemmatic when either:

1. The data used to micro-target voters is obtained by subterfuge, or illegally.

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2. The adverts used to deter voters are blatant lies.

We already know that Facebook and Cambridge Analytica are culpable on the first point so, in that sense, the C4 report added nothing new. What we don't know is what Facebook has done to prevent similar abuse in future, because they have been less than transparent about it.

On the second point, the C4 News report was also hamstrung by Facebook's lack of transparency. Facebook will not publish the adverts so it's impossible to gauge how dishonest they were. I suspect they were misleading, bordering on outright lies, but the one example C4 cited (which used Clinton's comments about predatory young black men) seemed quite reasonable. If I wanted to deter black voters from voting for Clinton I might do the same thing.

The report was better when it came to providing evidence of the effect of the campaign; the deflation of the black vote in some states was clearly a factor in the 2016 result.

However, the elephant in the room was Facebook and what it has (or has not) done to prevent misuse of user data and the integrity of political advertising since the last election.
 
As someone put it, the US President paid 170,000 times more in a payment to a porn-actress to cover up having sex with her than he did in income come tax in 2016
 
droodzilla said:
All campaigns target voters to the best of their ability. There's nothing illegal or wrong about that, in principle - it's the nature of politics. I find the idea of using advertising to deter voters depressing and cynical but again it's not necessarily an offence. It becomes problemmatic when either:
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You make good points, but was the blatantly racist aspect that sickened me. A white supremacist President using every dirty trick in the book to try and separate and intimidate black communities from their vote. Add to this all the physical vote rigging, inadequate machines and blatant corruption in voting machine supplier contracts exposed by Greg Palast and others and a strong picture emerges.

PS I do wish Facebook would be a whole lot more open and less evasive, I wish they would actually take a moral stand, but I do have some sympathy for their position given the parties who so abused data loopholes with fraudulent data collection and clear AUP breaches and then covertly used that data for such vile propaganda purposes now exist right at the very heart of western governments (CA, Dominic Cummings, Steve Bannon etc). As a global platform would you really show your cards to these far-right nationalists?
 
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Trump has started a push to re-write USA history taught to children so "American children grow up to love America".
The Arts are also to be directed so that patriotic films are made and Hollywood becomes an arm of Govt propaganda. Last you will see of subversive stuff like The Handmaid's Tale.
A full fascist dictatorship is the goal. This is Germany in the 1930s yet Israel/Jews fully support Trump because they are not in the firing line this time.
 
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