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Bands that changed...for the worse
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manicatel
pfm Member
At least in the pop/rock world, a band or artist has creative energy, drive & a catalogue of songs ready to be recorded for the first 2 albums or so.
After that, there’s pressure, time constraints, commercial interests, press, managers, agents etc that all get in the way, as well as the start of financial friction that one or two band members are going to be considerably richer than others as they’re the songwriters.
Hence the “tricky 3rd album” syndrome.
So sometimes a lot of what got the band famous in the first place goes away in the name of commerciality. Maybe that’s why a lot of “true fans” prefer the earlier output rather than the later stuff.
After that, there’s pressure, time constraints, commercial interests, press, managers, agents etc that all get in the way, as well as the start of financial friction that one or two band members are going to be considerably richer than others as they’re the songwriters.
Hence the “tricky 3rd album” syndrome.
So sometimes a lot of what got the band famous in the first place goes away in the name of commerciality. Maybe that’s why a lot of “true fans” prefer the earlier output rather than the later stuff.
gavreid
Pretty Words...
Not for the first time ;-)
This is a music forum, you can keep your ‘smart’ comments for the other section. Would hate for you to spread your intellect too thin
gavreid
Pretty Words...
This is a music forum, you can keep your ‘smart’ comments for the other section. Would hate for you to spread your intellect too thin
No danger of that on here
I was offering you a suggestion of 80's Miles Davis that I thought you would like. Even got in the NME top albums of the year...
gingermrkettle
Deep vein trombonist
Although Massive Attack's third album was their best and the first one without Tricky.
htm_1968
pfm Member
The Cure after Pornography (with a brief return to form for Disintegration).
New Order after Low Life.
Ride after their first LP.
The Orb after Thrash departed.
The Cocteau Twins after 4ad
My Bloody Valentine after Isn't Anything
Anything that Jason and Sonic did after Playing With Fire
Siousxie and the Banshees after McGeoch left.
Wooden Shjips after the third LP.
The Dead after American Beauty
New Order after Low Life.
Ride after their first LP.
The Orb after Thrash departed.
The Cocteau Twins after 4ad
My Bloody Valentine after Isn't Anything
Anything that Jason and Sonic did after Playing With Fire
Siousxie and the Banshees after McGeoch left.
Wooden Shjips after the third LP.
The Dead after American Beauty
foxwelljsly
Me too, I ate one sour too.
foxwelljsly
Me too, I ate one sour too.
The Flamin' Groovies. Loved the first 3 albums with Roy Loney, but their later power pop direction did nothing for me.
And Soul Asylum. Started out making a great jangly garage rock racket and then developed a conscience and made a fortune playing and singing whiny grunge lite shite.
And Soul Asylum. Started out making a great jangly garage rock racket and then developed a conscience and made a fortune playing and singing whiny grunge lite shite.
webster
Listen & enjoy.
Seriously?
If memory serves Genesis were recording as a trio at that stage and adding Chester Thompson & Daryl Stuermer for the tours.
Banks & Rutherford both founder members & Collins a member of the band from Nursery Cryme onwards - I think they had absolutely every right to keep the Genesis name.
foxwelljsly
Me too, I ate one sour too.
Roxy Music. Avalon is high fidelity water.
vince rocker
pfm Member
Picky Deadheads again... The Dead changed and had good years and bad years but they were always the Good Ol' Grateful Dead.
Elvis when he joined the army.
Nagraboy
Ausculta fili
@vince rocker
The Dead after America Beauty are better than most bands entirely. They have my vote and I don’t even like the hippy BS.
The Dead after America Beauty are better than most bands entirely. They have my vote and I don’t even like the hippy BS.
Spiderous
pfm Member
Gonna have to disagree. Back to Land is a change but it’s a belting album. (I’m also loving Moon Duo’s latest which is a bit different to their earlier stuff).
Nagraboy
Ausculta fili
Hey Vince, what do you think of John Meyer’s live efforts with Dead? Personally I love it. He does a mean I Know You Rider and China Cat SunFlower. I, by no means, chime with the hippy sensibility, but the musical magic they conjure is something to take note of.
vince rocker
pfm Member
TBH Nagraboy I haven't listened to a lot of it. He is OK but for me it's time they jacked it in. Meyer does his best however the spark has gone.
"That's the way it's been in town
Ever since they tore the juke box down."
FWIW my favourites of the "not Jerry" guitarists in Dead-related bands have been Kimock, and Scofield playing with Phil because they have their own strong identities. For new-ish psychedelic electric guitar I like Chris Forsyth and Steve Gunn, and only Bill Frisell can match the range of Jerry's playing.
Nagraboy
Ausculta fili
ahh come on, John has the Jerry tone!
vince rocker
pfm Member
He does, and I've even seen a video of Meyer playing Wolf, which is probably like touching the Holy Grail . But as I said, for me the rest of the band aren't bringing anything new anymore.
. But as I said, for me the rest of the band aren't bringing anything new anymore.