Labour at it again ..... anti-semitic just won't go away !

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

I rest my case

Simon

So, no answer to the question then?

 

[Simon Vess]

Further right even?

How do you define “right”?

Simon

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

So, no answer to the question then?

 

[stevec67]

I repeat that it is bogus to claim that Labour is “ for the many not the few” in the face of the results of the last several general elections

Flawed logic. Two things are going on here:
Corbyn wants to set up a government for the many, not the few. This is independednt of how many vote for him.
Most people don't want to vote for Corbyn, or didn't at the last election. These 2 things are not one and the same.

The latter point may be because the voters have been convinced that they don't want a more egalitarian government. I understand that. After all, if you are wealthy or think that you are, levelling the playing field isn't likely to be in your own self-interest.

 

[TheDecameron]

For me Corbyn is as Trump is for the Palestinians.

Arye

I’m not up on what Palestinians think of Trump. Can you be a little clearer about your view of Corbyn?

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

Simon, you said 'how dare you suggest I'm a Tory!' (I paraphrase)

I reply that it's a reasonable assumption, and ask you if it's correct or not.

You dissemble.

Why is that?

 

[Simon Vess]

So, no answer to the question then?

So no you failed to address the substantial point I raised and you have tried to deflect he discussion say from
It because you don’t have an answer

As well as pathetic attempts at trying to appear clever

Sumon

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

Flawed logic. Two things are going on here:
Corbyn wants to set up a government for the many, not the few. This is independednt of how many vote for him.
Most people don't want to vote for Corbyn, or didn't at the last election. These 2 things are not one and the same.

The latter point may be because the voters have been convinced that they don't want a more egalitarian government. I understand that. After all, if you are wealthy or think that you are, levelling the playing field isn't likely to be in your own self-interest.

Pretty much my point upthread. In lieu of response, Simon took umbrage at my assumption he's a Tory.

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

So no you failed to address the substantial point I raised and you have tried to deflect he discussion say from
It because you don’t have an answer

As well as pathetic attempts at trying to appear clever

Sumon

Well, at least I can spell my own name.

 

[MVV]

Pretty much my point upthread. In lieu of response, Simon took umbrage at my assumption he's a Tory.

I particularly enjoyed the "how dare you" bit. Always raises my spirits that.

 

[Simon Vess]

Simon, you said 'how dare you suggest I'm a Tory!' (I paraphrase)

I reply that it's a reasonable assumption, and ask you if it's correct or not.

You dissemble.

Why is that?

I can confirm that

1 am not a member of any political party


2i have voted in at least 10 general elections in this country and voted Labour in at least half of those

Unlike many I could ( but won’t ) name I try to steer clear of bigoted political ideology that leads to some of the extreme and abusive rants we have all seen on PFM and try to use reason

Good enough?

Simon

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

So no you failed to address the substantial point I raised and you have tried to deflect he discussion say from
It because you don’t have an answer

As well as pathetic attempts at trying to appear clever

Sumon

Well, I did sort of address your points indirectly by pointing out that element which draws an invalid conclusion from the evidence. Frankly, I thought you'd get the inference that I felt the rest of it was of a similar level of rigour. Given you clearly didn't, I'll just spell it out: I disparage your points because they are shallow, woolly, and clearly influenced by an unthinking prejudice. They don't really merit a further reply, because they have already been ventilated perfectly well upthread, had you cared to bother reading it before pitching in.

 

[Simon Vess]

Well, at least I can spell my own name.

I rest my case

Simon

 

[Simon Vess]

Well, I did sort of address your points indirectly by pointing out that element which draws an invalid conclusion from the evidence. Frankly, I thought you'd get the inference that I felt the rest of it was of a similar level of rigour. Given you clearly didn't, I'll just spell it out: I disparage your points because they are shallow, woolly, and clearly influenced by an unthinking prejudice. They don't really merit a further reply, because they have already been ventilated perfectly well upthread, had you cared to bother reading it before pitching in.

Yawn!

Simon

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

I rest my case

Simon

Yet you 'liked' the post. How odd.

 

[TheDecameron]

Ugly far right authoritarianism is on the March in the West- Trump, Erdogan, Orban, Netanyahu and the pimply Kurtz in Austria. With the exception of Erdogan, their chosen scapegoats are not the Jews this time, but the Muslims. They’re getting themselves and their followers revved up for a purge and it’s going to get ugly.

 

[Simon Vess]

Yet you 'liked' the post. How odd.

An accidental touching of the wrong spot on my touchscreen

Fwiiw I attach no personal animosity or otherwise to posters here just fail to understand some of the reasoning that leads others to their conclusions in many cases and fascinated by the frequent personal hostility aroused

Simon

 

[Simon Vess]

Have you spoken to your GP? You could have a significant underlying health problem there.

And what leads you to suggest this?

Please elaborate

Simon

 

[Still]

The fact of the matter is that JC is a saint like figure who can do no wrong.

Far too many of the wrong type of socialist about.

I rest my case

Good idea. With all that luggage you're going to strain something.

An accidental touching of the wrong spot on my touchscreen.

 

[Mullardman]

Why do you find impossible not to be offensive about folk taking a different viewpoint to yourself

Nothing new here

Simply a symptom of a failed argument

Nothing new here

Simon

Offensive? Where? Truthful about the Tory Oligarchy... if you can't see that then it's not my problem...

Offensive to you? I don't think so unless you find disagreement offensive.. which is actually what you are accusing me of.


So.. I ask again.. Please list something... anything.. of benefit to the general population of this country which has been delivered with one hand by the present Tory Oligarchy, and not taken away ( with interest) by the other hand.