Lee T
pfm Member
This should be posted at the beginning of every audio thread on pfm
There is certainly one member I can think of who would hang anyone for suggesting such a thing really exists. You know who you are
This should be posted at the beginning of every audio thread on pfm
Cheapest is always best praised on pfm, surely you know that by now, if it's a cable, it has to be the cheapest, an accessory of any kind, downloaded music has to be the worst possible rate that sounds no different to the highest rate etc.. etc..even cheap whole hifi systems get more praise here, it always makes me smile as I imagine most of it eventually ends up on ebay for peanuts, I have been down the road of "look how cheap I purchased this & it sounds better than my main system" route, it doesn't work out in the end but nice while it lasts until you realise it sounds shite.
The times I have read "good on yer" or similar to an op who has sold his 10,000 system to make way for a beer budget disaster, all praised by some who own systems costing way more but wouldn't dare to go down this route as they know it only leads to spending more in the end. Funny.
This should certainly go at the beginning of every cable thread
Quite the opposite actually. I would love all cables to sound the same. It would make life so much simpler.
There's no buyer's remorse driving my views on cables any more. They were bought and paid-for too long ago.
This should certainly go at the beginning of every cable thread
Cheapest is always best praised on pfm, surely you know that by now, if it's a cable, it has to be the cheapest, an accessory of any kind, downloaded music has to be the worst possible rate that sounds no different to the highest rate etc.. etc..even cheap whole hifi systems get more praise here, it always makes me smile as I imagine most of it eventually ends up on ebay for peanuts, I have been down the road of "look how cheap I purchased this & it sounds better than my main system" route, it doesn't work out in the end but nice while it lasts until you realise it sounds shite.
The times I have read "good on yer" or similar to an op who has sold his 10,000 system to make way for a beer budget disaster, all praised by some who own systems costing way more but wouldn't dare to go down this route as they know it only leads to spending more in the end. Funny.
Right.
Some people are likely to not handle well having their illusion that all cables sound the same destroyed.
Did you have help with that one?
It's 'ard being a Linn owner. I guess i don't understand why anyone cares what other people listen to or enjoy. If we assume that it's ridiculous to question another person's taste in music (we all see that, don't we?), why not extend it to equipment?
All I know is, I would have given my left nut to have something like Spotify premium when I was a kid, and streaming services are the sort of thing I've been waiting for my whole life. I don't need to own things, am happy to pay a monthly bill for access, and enjoy having someone else maintain everything. For the last week, I've only been listening to the Goldberg Variations. Spotify has about 50 versions. Before streaming services, I would have had my few versions, and I would have to search out reviews before deciding if I should take the plunge on any other. Instead, I can listen to them and decide if I feel it's worth being bothered with owning a physical copy. A lot of the time, even if I like it. I can't justify a purchase. Whether it was 320kbps or lossless is irrelevant for that decision because, as you say, the mastering is what counts and 320kbps lets me know about the mastering.
I just don't get slagging something so wonderful. Viva la stream!
This is what most do in the end but some have made the huge mistake of already selling.Some truth to this, however, more expensive doesn't always mean better. Also, some people may just prefer something they have picked up for a song to something they paid a fortune for because it suits their tastes better.... Never happened to me mind. Never say never though.
You're right though, I think a lot of people are exited about how good something sounds for what it cost and then get carried away... This is followed by a "sh!t, what have I done?" reaction.
The closest I have come is when I brought some focal speakers after being impressed in a demo. They would have allowed me to sell three power amps, my existing speakers and my crossovers. So glad I didn't sell them before I took receipt of the focals! The focals stayed a few day and then I moved them on... Not as impressive as I initially thought.
Who nicked me passport!This should go at the beginning of every cable thread.
Joe
Then the 'consensus' is wrong. I use spotify premium and it's pretty mediocre. Sometimes I despair at the easy acceptance of mediocrity. Any normal person can surely hear that 320kps is inadequate.
Why do people on enthusiasts forums actively praise a lowering of quality? Surely, we should be pressing, always, for better quality. Excellence is the goal, not commercial pap inflicted on us because it is more profitable.
This is what most do in the end but some have made the huge mistake of already selling.
I agree about price, more expensive does not always mean better but I think when someone sells off 10.000 worth of gear for a system costing a couple of hundred I have to take issue with it really sounding better which I have read on here quite recently, i once purchased a Marantz cd player from some grotty shop for peanuts, I realised in the end the only reason I was jumping for joy was the silly price, it sounded ok for a few hours until I replaced with my usual gear, bliss & reality returned.
They do so you should be happy
I once purchased a Marantz cd player from some grotty shop for peanuts, I realised in the end the only reason I was jumping for joy was the silly price, it sounded ok for a few hours until I replaced with my usual gear, bliss & reality returned.