Agree. I own both a Spacedeck with Space Arm and an LP12 with Akito. They are both in the same room playing through Tom Evans phono stages into the same system. Both are mounted with the same Ortofon MC.
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Unfortunately that's not allowed for copyright reasons. We did do something similar at a bakeoff several years ago to compare turntables, with very interesting results.
One of the big issues when citing the LP12 as a competitor is that the deck varies so much it can hardly be considered as one deck at all. The turntable I have just now looks pretty similar to the one I had before the RP10 but it sounds much better.
The Five arm is known to be neutral to a fault, so I'd put that 'dullness' down to the arm rather than the deck. I also had Koetsu, Lyra etc. on my Five, but Ks really should have a much heavier arm than the 11g of the 5, as I realised when swapping my Urushi to the 12" arms I went to. My Five was on Orbe, so yet another parameter but by all accounts and my experience the Dais is simple a platform and not in the same ball-park as SME decks, which are known as 'neutral'
I'll need your help to dress the arm cable if I upgrade the arm Colin. I have a Roksan Nima to try.
No problem. It's simple enough once you understand what's going on. You can call me sometime.
Or someone might be comparing the arm and deck to a 1980s pre-Cirkus LP12 that had that very alluring slight bass hump that made records sound so very very good, especially with amplifiers that tended to be a little lean. Like those dark green ones.
I remember that I had the hump in 1982 when I bought my (used, dealer) Fruit Box but I've no idea which leprechaun coloured amplification you are referring to but within a year or two mine was into Naim Olive (32.5/160 or 250) by which time the Basic had gone, replaced by a Tiktok and Karma, I think.Or someone might be comparing the arm and deck to a 1980s pre-Cirkus LP12 that had that very alluring slight bass hump that made records sound so very very good, especially with amplifiers that tended to be a little lean. Like those dark green ones.
Good times!
No idea? Well, what colour is olive?
They were called olive to distinguish them from the chrome bumper stuff, I believe, and only the faceplate was a dark slightly olive shade; the casing was black. I could have it arse about face but I reember seeing that slightly different hue towards the end of the eighties, if I remember.
