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CD treatments. Any recommendations?

Nigel

pfm Member
Just wondering if anyone has had any positive experiences with CD treatment before playing. Whether it be cleaning the disc, using mats such as Marigo, Statmat and the like. Fancy green pens, freezing discs, shaving the edges and practices I haven't even yet heard of.

A complete waste of time or a worthwhile preparation before listening commences?
 
A complete waste of time. If the disc's dirty just wipe it across with a soft cloth.
 
I always ensure that I place the CD the right way up in the loading tray, before playing.
I have found this creates perfect synergy by perfectly aligning the CD's recorded surface with the player's laser mechanism, resulting in faultless playback and superior sound quality.
Conversely, placing the CD in the tray in the opposite orientation produces a clearly noticeable inferior sound. In fact no sound at all.
 
I have a Bedini Ultra Clarifier, thought I had put it in the for sale section a while back, cannot remember.

Yes, it really does work, don't ask me how, but it has worked and gave an audible improvement on any system I tried it on.

PM me if you want to discuss without the usual thread crapping.

Cheers

John
 
Back in "the old days" some cd were of dubious quality and some players not so good at reading them without error so green pens, coatings and polishes might have made a difference (though I never heard any difference).
These days I think they are Mostly a waste of time.(Bedini excepted?)
I realise it's not quite the same but I've never once had a read or crc error when ripping CDs
 
A complete waste of time or a worthwhile preparation before listening commences?

Making sure the disc looks clean makes sense, but beyond that I don't see that anything can be done to improve bit retrieval from the disc.

Obviously if a mod can be done to make the disc easier to read that would be a good thing.

However, note that with something like DBPowerAmp, cheap PC CD readers can read a CD at 8-16x speed and come up with a bit perfect rip (checked against dozens of other rips made by other users on their own PCs), so it seems unlikely that a decent CD player needs any help doing just as good a job in real time (that is, 8-16 times more slowly).

I may be wrong, but that's my logic.
 
Whatever you do don't be tempted to use one of those idiotic edge-shaving "tools" as you run a risk of exposing the metal layer of the disk to the atmosphere which will ruin the disc in time.
 
I took some out for a meal as a treat but they didn't play any better.

Wasted my cash on a green place mat, nothing they still played. But when I came to rip a S/H CD it revolted even though it played fine and looked scratch free. Odd sods CDs nearly as temperamental as them vinyls.
 
When I get fungus appear on mine, I wash in warm, slightly soapy water, rinse and dry with a clean microfibre cloth, taking care to avoid getting my finger prints on them after cleaning
 
When I get fungus appear on mine, I wash in warm, slightly soapy water, rinse and dry with a clean microfibre cloth, taking care to avoid getting my finger prints on them after cleaning

Yeah but what do you do with your CDs ? :D
 
i use Permaclean spray and brush to clean cd's always with great results, i have a Statmat mk2 dont use it anymore through don't know why, you can also get a system tune up disk from hi-fi choice etc, they are all only a few quid so what do you have to loose,, ps buy my statmat if you want (cheeeky) andy
 
Rub radially and lightly with Kleenex tissues + ROR (Residual oil remover) - available in some specialist camera shops as a lens etc. cleaner- recommended by JMH in a hifi magazine years ago.
 
When I get fungus appear on mine, I wash in warm, slightly soapy water, rinse and dry with a clean microfibre cloth, taking care to avoid getting my finger prints on them after cleaning
CD/Disc Rot does not appear on the outer disc.
Its inside.
No soap or water will remove it.
Have you ever snapped a CD in half?
Google CD Rot.
 
Just wondering if anyone has had any positive experiences with CD treatment before playing. Whether it be cleaning the disc, using mats such as Marigo, Statmat and the like. Fancy green pens, freezing discs, shaving the edges and practices I haven't even yet heard of.

A complete waste of time or a worthwhile preparation before listening commences?

I nearly sold my Marigo mat a few months ago; after just "using" it for several years, and under the influence of this place, I thought it probably didn't make any difference. So, I stopped using it whilst it was up for sale. That didn't last very long, and it's now firmly back on the every-day use list.

To shew just how stupid I am, I even thought I found Auric Illuminator useful; and still do. I tried it on two identical discs a few years ago, and even now the treated disc sounds better.

When Coherent Audio (?) were still based near Malvern, Tony used the disc shaving device on a disc I'd brought along to demo the system on show. Not only did I think it made a difference, the disc still plays perfectly well, and that was around 10 years ago now.
 
I put my CDs in the dishwasher, fast cycle. I tried the same with the CD player itself, but results were mixed.
 
i use Permaclean spray and brush to clean cd's always with great results, i have a Statmat mk2 dont use it anymore through don't know why, you can also get a system tune up disk from hi-fi choice etc, they are all only a few quid so what do you have to loose,, ps buy my statmat if you want (cheeeky) andy

What is your PIN number, and can I have your car keys?

;)
 
I’ve had some very good results from Russ Andrews’ ‘Relees’ and also from the MusicWorks anti static spray cleaner. Both seem to increase the dynamic range and I’d also say that the subtle timing cues were better after cleaning, too. The net result was that the disc became more enjoyable to listen to, the music was more interesting. Almost like a better mastering in some respects. It’s not night and day, but neither is it the sort of dancing on the head of a pin stuff you sometimes get.

My view is that it doesn’t cost a lot, nor take much time or effort, and it seems to make my system make better music, so why the hell not?

Of course, this isn’t double blind tested, nor can you revert a cleaned disc back to its pre-treatment state to double-check any observations, so what I’ve put above will, for some, not be worth the pixels it has illuminated. I merely offer it as one bloke’s anecdotal experience, in the spirit of the OP.
 


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