Cable lifters anyone?
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Whaleblue
Southbound
Purité Audio
Trade: Purite Audio
Oh I don't know, don't sniff at these, for £475 you only get 2!!! Would be about 2k for my 2 * 6M cables, so they're reassuringly expensive!...and you get to use this...
http://www.nordost.com/accessories/eco-3x.php
...it's a great read
drummerman
pfm Member
Yes, it partly explaines why the british rail system lags about 20 years behind the rest of most of Europe.
Never mind the roads ...
Don't get me started on cantilever power lines. British rail is as you may know, making stately, regal process down the London West Coast line, installing them. The problem is the bridges of course. They all have to be raised to take the masts, all of them. Here in Oxfordshire, we are up close and personal with the grisly process. Each takes nearly a year, with plenty of evidence of masterly inactivity.
One of the bridges they didn't raise enough, I'm told and they had to do it again.
A "Spokesperson" about a year ago, said although it was only just underway, it was 2 years behind schedule, no apology or explanation of course.
Sorry, I know this is an audio forum, but I needed to get that of my chest, I feel better now.
drummerman
pfm Member
Who physically separates their power leads from signal cables?
sq225917
Bit of this, bit of that
All my cables are stuffed down the back of my tipped over ikea shelf. No hum or noise, not even sizzle with ears on tweeter or mids at normal listening volume. That's the joy of a fully balanced setup and power amps with over 90db of psrr.
Probably why I don't feel the need for lifters, shifters or grifters.
Probably why I don't feel the need for lifters, shifters or grifters.
As long as it's on the top shelf you should be fine...
hifinutt
hifinutt
anotherdom
pfm Member
So this is curious, given there's actual bona fide scientific evidence to explain why separating alternating mains current from line-level signal is a really good idea - and I'm assuming you didn't listen to both a properly installed system and then a rats nest of cable and decide you preferred the latter?
2N3055
pfm Member
Some people seem to think they make a difference. The following is from:
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dedicated2/cabletower.html
Removing the Cable Towers for comparison was definitely a step in the wrong direction. "What the hell is my carpet doing to my stereo?" was scribbled in my listening notes. Comparatively, the music shone weakly through a less-transparent window, dynamic range was reduced, the toms sounded more like plastic buckets than drums and the grinding crunch of the heavy guitars was less crunchy - like cereal that sits too long in milk. I couldn't wait to switch back and continue listening with the Cable Towers again.
And the claimed science? behind it:
Low capacitance-to-ground (or surroundings) is one of the main goals of the Cable Tower. Lower influences equates to less signal degradation, coloration and smear. We can achieve better tests results over the porcelain powerline insulators due to our lower dielectric constant, unique patent-pending design and lower contact surface area.
Insertion capacitance is the capacitance gain each elevator (or Cable Tower) introduces into the signal path. As you can see, each porcelain insertion capacitance value is nearly 4 x greater than that of Cable Tower. For example, should a listener insert 4 risers per cable, the porcelain insulator will introduce nearly 16 x greater insertion capacitance per channel over the Cable Tower. Again, Cable Tower shows superior performance over the porcelain high-tension power pole insulator; lower capacitance and less signal degradation.
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dedicated2/cabletower.html
Removing the Cable Towers for comparison was definitely a step in the wrong direction. "What the hell is my carpet doing to my stereo?" was scribbled in my listening notes. Comparatively, the music shone weakly through a less-transparent window, dynamic range was reduced, the toms sounded more like plastic buckets than drums and the grinding crunch of the heavy guitars was less crunchy - like cereal that sits too long in milk. I couldn't wait to switch back and continue listening with the Cable Towers again.
And the claimed science? behind it:
Low capacitance-to-ground (or surroundings) is one of the main goals of the Cable Tower. Lower influences equates to less signal degradation, coloration and smear. We can achieve better tests results over the porcelain powerline insulators due to our lower dielectric constant, unique patent-pending design and lower contact surface area.
Insertion capacitance is the capacitance gain each elevator (or Cable Tower) introduces into the signal path. As you can see, each porcelain insertion capacitance value is nearly 4 x greater than that of Cable Tower. For example, should a listener insert 4 risers per cable, the porcelain insulator will introduce nearly 16 x greater insertion capacitance per channel over the Cable Tower. Again, Cable Tower shows superior performance over the porcelain high-tension power pole insulator; lower capacitance and less signal degradation.