Anyone else here a RigB fan?
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Craig B
Re:trophile
Marketing product exclusively though FB makes it seem as though one has to join a cult just to have a look at the shop.
It would be interesting to know how just many of these echo chambers have successfully swallowed themselves.
Mike1965
pfm Member
First thing I thought too...
It's not a cheap thing to do so just puts the price of the product up.
May I ask if one of the more knowledgeable members knows if there is a difference between the 'internals' of the AT VM540ML and the VM740ML, or is is the difference just in the material of the external 'body'?
I originally purchased a '740' direct from AT, and then later after reading about the RigB 'bodies', I purchased a RigB bodied '540' from Simon which I found was much easier to mount because of the 'threaded' RigB body.
I find 'facebook' rather 'klunky' to use, but Simon responded quickly to my initial enquiry and forwarded a '540' with a black anodised body.
Later I ordered and received a 'red' anodised RigB body for my '740', but although the fitting instructions were straightforward, I decided to return it to Simon along with the cartridge to have the new 'body' fitted.
I mounted the '540' onto a Tabriz, but currently I'm using the '740' mounted onto an A.O. 'UniArm' / PTP6 Lenco using a Graham Slee 'Accession' MM phono stage.
I cannot really comment on any perceived diferences in sound between the two, given that I've spent more time 'fiddling' than listening - I decided that I first needed to source additional 'armboards', an MM phono stage, and finally both arms needed new tags fitting.
Regards
Mike K.
I originally purchased a '740' direct from AT, and then later after reading about the RigB 'bodies', I purchased a RigB bodied '540' from Simon which I found was much easier to mount because of the 'threaded' RigB body.
I find 'facebook' rather 'klunky' to use, but Simon responded quickly to my initial enquiry and forwarded a '540' with a black anodised body.
Later I ordered and received a 'red' anodised RigB body for my '740', but although the fitting instructions were straightforward, I decided to return it to Simon along with the cartridge to have the new 'body' fitted.
I mounted the '540' onto a Tabriz, but currently I'm using the '740' mounted onto an A.O. 'UniArm' / PTP6 Lenco using a Graham Slee 'Accession' MM phono stage.
I cannot really comment on any perceived diferences in sound between the two, given that I've spent more time 'fiddling' than listening - I decided that I first needed to source additional 'armboards', an MM phono stage, and finally both arms needed new tags fitting.
Regards
Mike K.
Craig B
Re:trophile
Electrically, they are the same, and they share the same AT-VMN40ML stylus assembly. Mass is 6.4g vs. 8g, so not a lot of difference there.
Personally, I don't see the logic in fitting a RigB mounting plate to any of the VM700 models. As far as having captive nuts, it isn't as though one is mounting and dismounting a given cartridge very often, either.
Personally, I don't see the logic in fitting a RigB mounting plate to any of the VM700 models. As far as having captive nuts, it isn't as though one is mounting and dismounting a given cartridge very often, either.
sktn77a
pfm Member
Maybe, maybe not. But it speaks to the seriousness and credibility of the company.
Iain Docherty
pfm Member
Has anyone had success in buying something from this outfit recently? I contacted Simon today to see if he could supply a VM95 body and, <EDIT> ... I did manage to get through in the end. Will report back when it arrives...
Cheers
Iain.
I too thought that’s who he was talking about, well before my time though
VTA
pfm Member
I bought a RigB for a 540ML. Purchase via Facebook contact was very easy, quality of the finished product was excellent, installation was simple.
How is it?
1. MUCH EASIER to install and set up on the headshell as it has threaded holes! This one feature is worth the price.
2. On a pretty well modded SL1200 it sounds ever so slightly cleaner than it did before (but this table even modified has a graininess to it). I suspect if I get it on my LP12 that it will no doubt sound noticeably better. I am happy with the improvement based on what I know in my set up.
3. I have a Clearaudio Virtuoso also that is rather better. I think the wood bodies do add some magic and I would like to see about trying one on a 540 body at some point.
How is it?
1. MUCH EASIER to install and set up on the headshell as it has threaded holes! This one feature is worth the price.
2. On a pretty well modded SL1200 it sounds ever so slightly cleaner than it did before (but this table even modified has a graininess to it). I suspect if I get it on my LP12 that it will no doubt sound noticeably better. I am happy with the improvement based on what I know in my set up.
3. I have a Clearaudio Virtuoso also that is rather better. I think the wood bodies do add some magic and I would like to see about trying one on a 540 body at some point.
cj66
pfm Member
I went for a VM95ml RigB a wee while ago but not very recently. I have no comparison to make as I never listened to the original.
I based my decision on previous ownership of an F5 Stilton bodied MC. This was definitely cleaner and a more solid sounding than the standard F5.
I'm happy with my purchase (also went very smoothly).
I based my decision on previous ownership of an F5 Stilton bodied MC. This was definitely cleaner and a more solid sounding than the standard F5.
I'm happy with my purchase (also went very smoothly).
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clownfish
It's all in the details
This was a new one to me and I had to look this up.
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harkpabst
Member
If someone sells on Facebook, that doesn't automatically make their whole business questionable.
Simon does run a small but proper business including its own website (The Audio Files) and ebay shop (LP5 Turntable Shop). It's just the RigB range of cartridge bodies he's selling through a different channel. Who am I to question his statement on the reasons for that: He couldn't make more of the RibB bodies anyway, so doesn't even try to boost sales by actively advertising them.
In the past I did order the original RigB for AT-91/AT-3600L and a ready-to-play modified RigB VM95 cart and everything went smooth and well. I just also ordered a RigB 500 for my VM540ML. All contact through email, no Facebook required.
Simon does run a small but proper business including its own website (The Audio Files) and ebay shop (LP5 Turntable Shop). It's just the RigB range of cartridge bodies he's selling through a different channel. Who am I to question his statement on the reasons for that: He couldn't make more of the RibB bodies anyway, so doesn't even try to boost sales by actively advertising them.
In the past I did order the original RigB for AT-91/AT-3600L and a ready-to-play modified RigB VM95 cart and everything went smooth and well. I just also ordered a RigB 500 for my VM540ML. All contact through email, no Facebook required.
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Alvarado
pfm Member
If the Rig B body upgrade is because it is made of metal, does that imply there is no point in putting one on the 700 series? I thought the 'upgrade', for example from 540ML to 740ML, is basically because the 700 carts have a metal housing. So haven't AT already provided the upgrade, such as it may be?