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Dump The Guardian!

Sue Pertwee-Tyr said:
Paul, I don't think your argument that the BBC's funding being mandated by the state makes the BBC state funded is sound. Motorists are required to pay for insurance before they can use the road, which doesn't make the insurance companies state-funded.

There may, however, be an argument that the BBC is vulnerable to pressure when its charter is up for renewal. I'm not sure why (or even if) the government gets a say in whether the BBC charter is renewed, or in the terms of the renewal, but I've heard it said that the BBC is cowed come renewal time. If true, then I think the renewal should be in the gift of Parliament, not government, which might have a positive effect on its quest for political impartiality.
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Sorry, Sue, but it is not the same. The state says you have to pay a tax that goes to the BBC. So one of the taxes you pay, pays for the BBC. With cars, the state only says that you must be insured.
 
Try this: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa..._data/file/584329/57965_Cm_9366_Print__1_.pdf and

"49.
Licence fee funding and other finance
(1)
The Secretary of State must pay to the BBC out of money provided by Parliament
sums equal to the whole of the net Licence Revenue or such lesser sums as the
Secretary of State may, with the consent of the Treasury, determine."

And: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...e/577829/57964_CM_9365_Charter_Accessible.pdf

"
43.
Funding settlement
(
1)
The period of the first funding settlement is 1 April 2017 to 31 March 2022.
(2)
The period of the second funding settlement commences on 1 April 2022. The
duration of this period of this settlement will be at least five years.
(3)
The Secretary of State must notify the BBC of the funding settlement in advance of
the period to which it relates.
(4)
The Secretary of State, in determining a funding settlement, must
—
(a)
assess the level of funding required for effective fulfilment of the Mi
ssion and
promotion of the Public Purposes;
(b)
consider an assessment of the BBC’s commercial income and activities; and
(c)
consult the BBC.
(5)
The BBC must provide the Secretary of State with such information and other
assistance as the Secretary of State may reasonably require from the BBC in
connection with the determination of a funding settlement by the Secretary of State
including a set of data on its funding needs and income streams in a format
determined by the Secretary of State, having consulted the BBC.
ecretary of State with such information and other
assistance as the Secretary of State may reasonably require from the BBC in
connection with the determination of a funding settlement by the Secretary of State
including a set of data on its funding needs and income streams in a format
determined by the Secretary of State, having consulted the BBC."
(6)
For the purposes of this article, “funding settlement” means a determination by the
Secretary of State of the level of the licence fee and the level of licence fee revenue
for the period of the settlement.
 
maxflinn said:
It has been a major part of the massive anti-Corbyn propaganda campaign over the last few years.

Dump the Guardian!

The Guardian has spent the last two years relentlessly attacking Jeremy Corbyn. Only recently has it changed its tune, perhaps worried that it has alienated too many readers. Corbyn's success has been despite the Guardian and the rest of the corporate media. The Guardian will now want readers to forget its propaganda war on Corbyn. We've compiled this list so they don't. Dump the Guardian!

http://theguardian.fivefilters.org/
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We should do this.

Split up the people who could maybe form a coalition against the right. Bitter infighting between different factions of the left. Make sure that tory government can survive even as a minority. Because people with almost exactly the same views as me who have never worn a donkey jacket should be despised.

And this way Corbyn can be preserved with an unsullied reputation like Benn, Foot and Smith - because he will have no chance to besmirch his reputation by making decisions in power. After all, actually helping people comes second to the purity of our thought and manifesto.

(Even the Bolsheviks and Mugabe knew enough to get power first, and then prune the support afterwards.)
 
Swamp Thing is a member of the Green Party and as such also part of the leftist coalition of Guardian reading vegans.
 
Liked Swamp Thing when I were a lad.

But still, you write like it were 2016: purity of thought, not having to sully himself with actual power etc. You need to get out of the swamp more: Corbyn's the prime minister, FFS.
 
Look at the Conservative manifesto Joe, and at LAbour's, and look at what this government has done.
 
No no Joe, it's May who is the purely hypothetical prime minister, and it's Corbyn you have to thank for that. So be thankful!
 
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