What's the PM going to announce?
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stephen bennett
Mr Enigma
King Henry VIII published a 'Statute of Proclamations' in 1539, which gave him the power to legislate by proclamation.
So-called “Henry VIII clauses” today give the Government powers to change old laws that have already been passed by Parliament.
And they allow the Prime Minister to change existing laws without Parliament’s full approval.
Ministers insist they need these powers to “correct” European laws that refer to EU bodies soon to be defunct after Brexit.
But critics have accused the Government of avoiding scrutiny and - crucially - circumventing the Lords.
Other information about if you look. 40 years worth of legislation that can be dropped or changed without parliamentary scrutiny.
Stephen
Paul R
pfm Member
I don't think so. He is uncritical of the EU Commission and its abysmal behaviour, as seen most recently this last week with 'the leak' and Juncker's insistence that EU nationals be pawns in the negotiation. Not to mention the cynical insertion of Irish unification into the negotiation.
We could expand it. I don't think Neil wants the best for any of the EU peoples, he appears fully signed up to the EU project, regardless of its impact on member states. It is curious that he chooses to live outside the EU.
Paul
Paul R
pfm Member
This is legislation that passed onto the books without scrutiny and as a legal obligation.
The post-Brexit scenario is a great improvement. Parliament can call a minister to account and do its job.
Paul
Paul R
pfm Member
NeilR
pfm Member
Paul, where are you getting this stuff from?
I am not uncritical of the EU. For instance I happen to think that the behaviour of Juncker and his office has been appalling. He should never have been appointed and needs to go ASAP. In fact, the EU needs refreshing with a new generation of people at the top.
But May's reaction to this has been disastrous. she should have risen above it rather than being dragged down to the same level. Or was it a cheap electioneering stunt which is even worse?
If you remember from our posts before the referendum, I am also against Euro and think it should be phased out ASAP as it is damaging many countries economies.
Where I differ from you is that I think the UK should have been working for change on the inside. Who knows, if we had stayed in, perhaps Cameron and Macron could have been a force for change in the EU. We'll never know now.
Instead, due to the incompetence of the May government, we are speeding towards the edge of a cliff called hard brexit and it is going to be an utter disaster for the UK. In fact, I predict the UK will be applying for membership again 10-15 years after our eventual Brexit.
I am not uncritical of the EU. For instance I happen to think that the behaviour of Juncker and his office has been appalling. He should never have been appointed and needs to go ASAP. In fact, the EU needs refreshing with a new generation of people at the top.
But May's reaction to this has been disastrous. she should have risen above it rather than being dragged down to the same level. Or was it a cheap electioneering stunt which is even worse?
If you remember from our posts before the referendum, I am also against Euro and think it should be phased out ASAP as it is damaging many countries economies.
Where I differ from you is that I think the UK should have been working for change on the inside. Who knows, if we had stayed in, perhaps Cameron and Macron could have been a force for change in the EU. We'll never know now.
Instead, due to the incompetence of the May government, we are speeding towards the edge of a cliff called hard brexit and it is going to be an utter disaster for the UK. In fact, I predict the UK will be applying for membership again 10-15 years after our eventual Brexit.
richardg
Admonishtrator
OTT. UK is not a small stick. Its the 2nd biggest stick in the bag. Problem is, she relies on this and not diplomatic skills, skills that she should have in her role.
I cannot see why anyone would sabre rattle like this and piss people off. And do it through the press.
She needs taking out.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Excellent point- we were one of the biggest players in the EEC/EU for decades, equal negotiating rights, the ability to steer the agenda through powerful diplomacy. We walk out and now express complete surprise that it's turned out this way. If May welches on her financial obligations to the EU, as some in the Tory Party are advocating, it's going to damage us further down the line.
That is what happens when you tell 27 countries which thought we were all fairly friendly to pi55 off.
eternumviti
Insufficient privileges to reply.
Nobody told them to piss off. We told them that we will be pissing off.
tqineil
Ubi fides ibi lux et robur
http://www.theholocaustexplained.or...n-power/propaganda-and-promises/#.WQusBNIrLIU
You were right Jack
"Germany’s economy was in such a poor state that Hitler’s promise of strong government and stability was widely supported and not least by industrialists"
ff1d1l
pfm Member
Translation of the May/Junker standoff article. Well worth reading.
https://medium.com/@20sthredhead/i-...uncker-dinner-that-everyones-been-ac5f952b92e
https://medium.com/@20sthredhead/i-...uncker-dinner-that-everyones-been-ac5f952b92e
jackbarron
Chelsea, London
Blimey, thanks for letting me know. All I saw was a clip on Facebook which didn't explain Hitler's use of the phrase in detail.
Jack
Much as I love the royals, don't they have some German connections they could use to help us?
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Thanks- good to read the original piece translated.
eternumviti
Insufficient privileges to reply.
It reads like a cheap airport novel, and its prejuduces are made clear in the first two sentences.
The passages quoted as vertabim lead one to assume that the conversations were recorded on a device, and then handed to the press. The whole thing represents an extraordinary breach of normal good manners, and says as much about Juncker, his puppetmeister Selmayr, and their entourage of unelected tin-pot dictators and jumped-up clerks, as needs to be said.
stephen bennett
Mr Enigma
What happened to your previous reasonable tone, eternumviti? You sound like an offshoot of the Daily Mail with comments like these.
Stephen