waxkinglyrical
pfm Member
@Mullardman: I wonder if the current production Alphason HR 200S significantly improves on the older design?
Your Tone Arm History @ an arm which aesthetically you would love or have
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@Mullardman: I wonder if the current production Alphason HR 200S significantly improves on the older design?
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
I wasn't aware there was such a thing.
Many years ago I used to slightly know the chap who originated the original, and the Sonata TT I think. Mike something?. As I recall by that time Alphason only made stands and were based somewhere near here. Leigh?
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
P.S. Just had a rummage around the interweb. Mike Knowles! That's the chap! Seems he's back as Alphason Specialist Audio.
Must find out more.
Must find out more.
a.palfreyman
pfm Member
There are some on Vinyl Engine raving about ADC carts, but you'd need a NOS stylus as it appears most replacements have a tiny magnet at the end of the canti rather than a magnet above the canti which has a tube on the end. I have a now very old ADC XLM that was fitted to the AR XA that was my Dad's from around 1970. Diamond looks worn but useable and I had to glue the canti back into the suspension block as it was loose. Tried it on a Jelco 250 but the resonance was so low that on a record with off-centre hole, the image swayed left-right-left.
notevenclose
pfm Member
Nice cartridge in its day, always somewhat under the radar in the UK at least. Fell out of favour, along with a number of other fine MMs when a lot of cheap MC cartridges appeared because MC was the 'trendy' option, but most of them proved the old adage that you only get what you pay for.
My general rule of thumb was the Entre was probably the first MC on the ladder worth buying, at around £100 IIRC, below that you'd often get a better balanced performance from a good MM.
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And if you were to live with only one?
I bought a Rega RB300 when they came out in 1984 (God, I'm old), it became an Ittok an then an Ekos. The RB300 would have been good enough.
A Formula 4 came before the RB300. That's it, only four in total. Will I now be banned from PFM for having had way to little gear?
Darren
So gentle when he tries to understand.
You wont be banned but I find your lack of effort deplorable.
mik bhavnani
pfm Member
I have both a 9" and 12" HR200S here and have now played them both I had to have them as I used to sell the 100s back in the day. I have to say the HR200S is a whole new level above the 100s. The arm offers serious weight and stability while the 100s had a really oppen midrange and sweet top it could sound crude sometimes the HR200S has a lack of grain and is far better nuanced the textures are incredible compared to the HR100S. I think the new Alphason arms are incredible value for money when compared to many arms these days I really wish Mike success with them.
Tony L
Administrator
Have a desire to try one of these....
I heard one sounding pretty good in a 47 Labs room at a show decades ago. Design wise everything is wrong with it; awful ergonomics, ludicrous pivot position, bizarre free-positioning offset etc etc, but it seemed to at least kind of work. I can’t stand arms without cueing devices, so clearly not for me, but maybe not quite as crazy as it seems.
Joe
pfm Member
I would love to try it because it is such an anti-arm...It flys in the face of virtually every accepted precept of arm design .
It's the rebel in me fighting my better nature.
GavinA
pfm Member
The first arm (early 60s) was what came on a Garrard SP25. When I stopped being a student and got a proper job, I got a complete B&O system (they had just started exporting to UK, and were not then the high end operation that they subsequently became). The turntable had what I still consider to be one of the best looking arms ever, like a well sharpened pencil cranked down and left. The turntable was noisy though so I got a TD150 with its own arm including an aluminium head shell with a mesh of rectangular holes - nice looking but not very stiff. So I then got what turned out to be end game - a 3009 2, which I still have but now on a Michell Synchro. So 4 arms in 60+ years!
