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Yes...the grills really are nasty.....a better way must be possible.
Highly disagree.
Yes...the grills really are nasty.....a better way must be possible.
It was good wasn’t it. Wish I could house and afford 50’s!Comparisons done, and yes the actives do sound superior to the passives. And that was using the Hegel as the pre. So the question for me is straight forward(ish). Do the ATC's active or passive sound significantly better than my PMC's? Better? No. Different? Yes. If I had to characterise the difference, I'd say the ATC's are cleaner across the spectrum. Less emphasis on bass, more on mids and a similar top end (to my ears, 63 years young). They are probably marginally quicker too. I guess that's the sealed cab doing its thing.
This has been a very useful exercise for me and I'd like to thank the guys at Basically Sound for their patience and coffee. There's an ATC event happening there today (You can call to book a place, I think there's 3:00, 5:00 and 7:00pm slots). Check their website.
Thanks to everyone that's commented on this thread.
Sorry, speed-reading, but did I miss the bit about whether you decided to stick or twist?Comparisons done, and yes the actives do sound superior to the passives. And that was using the Hegel as the pre. So the question for me is straight forward(ish). Do the ATC's active or passive sound significantly better than my PMC's? Better? No. Different? Yes. If I had to characterise the difference, I'd say the ATC's are cleaner across the spectrum. Less emphasis on bass, more on mids and a similar top end (to my ears, 63 years young). They are probably marginally quicker too. I guess that's the sealed cab doing its thing.
This has been a very useful exercise for me and I'd like to thank the guys at Basically Sound for their patience and coffee. There's an ATC event happening there today (You can call to book a place, I think there's 3:00, 5:00 and 7:00pm slots). Check their website.
Thanks to everyone that's commented on this thread.
Sorry, speed-reading, but did I miss the bit about whether you decided to stick or twist?
Which PMC model do you have?For the moment, stick. I'd like to find something that's a good step up from my current speakers....that is proving harder than I thought. The ATC's are subjectively 'better' but not by the margin I'd want for the extra outlay.
Understood, your money and your ears and all that!For the moment, stick. I'd like to find something that's a good step up from my current speakers....that is proving harder than I thought. The ATC's are subjectively 'better' but not by the margin I'd want for the extra outlay.
Arrange a home demonstration so you can make a more accurate judgment.The Twnety5 22.
Hello
Active vs passive : regarding ATC : the 50’s are in a different league vs the 40’s
However , the 40’s really boast of having TREMENDOUS mid range
Then it’s a question of taste and money
Cheers
My understanding is that all the drivers on the 50s are SL standard, so all frequency bands will be of higher quality. Also the 50s are vented rather than bass reflex so it's more like natural bass rather than augmented.Would you say that the 40's have a better midrange balance/coherence than the 50's? I've heard the 50's and 100's a fair bit and the 40's at shows (where i thought they sounded great but impressions were a bit limited being in an unfamiliar space).
What do the 50's give a more corporeal, real bass?
I know one bass reflex and the other infinite baffle. Who's has compared them back to back?
My understanding is that all the drivers on the 50s are SL standard, so all frequency bands will be of higher quality. Also the 50s are vented rather than bass reflex so it's more like natural bass rather than augmented.
Understood, your money and your ears and all that!
You have referred a couple of times to “the ATC’s” as if the passives and actives could broadly be grouped together. As a former owner of the passives and current owner of the actives, I would have expected the passives to be different but the actives to be clearly (subjectively and objectively) better. I’m just trying to understand what you experienced