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The Rise of the Far Right

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A deeply unfair and unequal country’: report warns of unprecedented far-right gains in UK​

Thinktank says decisive action must be taken to counter inequality in health, housing, poverty and the north-south income divide

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‘A deeply unfair and unequal country’: report warns of unprecedented far-right gains in UK

Thinktank says decisive action must be taken to counter inequality in health, housing, poverty and the north-south income divide
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“The next government must take decisive action to reduce inequality or risk unprecedented far-right gains, a thinktank has warned”

Sadly, the next government is committed to reducing our potential to tackle inequality. The next government’s commitment is to the same policies that caused inequality in the first place.

As much as Starmer supporters try to deny it, it’s there in black and white
 
ks.234 said:
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An old story. My old story is that Europe's Left has gone upmarket long ago (an expectable evolution, as its members have themselves climbed the social ladder from the 80's on), aiming specifically at higher educated voters, and losing every existing connection to the working class. Which was then eagerly courted by the far right, as can be seen very clearly in France, Germany and Austria. FPTP prevents this phenomenon in Britain, so it's only logical that the Tories jumped on this new market served on a plate by the Left, and therefore shifted to the right. So no, it's the young intellectual (and disconnected) left who is the principal enabler of the far right.
 
Macron’s alliance said it would step down in most constituencies where it had come third to allow others a chance to beat the RN. But it would not step aside for LFI (Melenchon) which it outrageously said was not “compatible with republican values on parliament, universalism and antisemitism”. It thereby equates the fascists and LFI.

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Cheese said:
An old story. My old story is that Europe's Left has gone upmarket long ago (an expectable evolution, as its members have themselves climbed the social ladder from the 80's on), aiming specifically at higher educated voters, and losing every existing connection to the working class. Which was then eagerly courted by the far right, as can be seen very clearly in France, Germany and Austria. FPTP prevents this phenomenon in Britain, so it's only logical that the Tories jumped on this new market served on a plate by the Left, and therefore shifted to the right. So no, it's the young intellectual (and disconnected) left who is the principal enabler of the far right.
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if the left has moved as you claim, it is no longer the left.

The problem is that it is the centrists who have moved to the right. As such they are no longer central, but right wing. See UK Labour.

The centrist dad move to neoliberalism is inexplicable, hence game of blaming everyone one else, the young, the left, other people’s greed and avarice etc
 
gavreid said:
Macron’s alliance said it would step down in most constituencies where it had come third to allow others a chance to beat the RN. But it would not step aside for LFI (Melenchon) which it outrageously said was not “compatible with republican values on parliament, universalism and antisemitism”. It thereby equates the fascists and LFI.
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Jeezus… first as tragedy, second as farce!
 
gavreid said:
Macron’s alliance said it would step down in most constituencies where it had come third to allow others a chance to beat the RN. But it would not step aside for LFI (Melenchon) which it outrageously said was not “compatible with republican values on parliament, universalism and antisemitism”. It thereby equates the fascists and LFI.
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In practice, the Macron alliance has already withdrawn its 3d place candidates in favour of both LFI candidates and LFI dissidents (Ruffin). I've just skimmed through the list of triangulars and haven't found any instance of Ensemble maintaining a candidate where an NFP (Ecologist, socialist, communist, LFI) candidate was in 1st or 2nd place. But it is an alliance, and Macron's powers are in steep decline. Edouard Philippe (former PM and head of the Horizons component of Attal's Ensemble group) is communicating a hard line against LFI with an eye on the presidential campaign in 2027. Big mistake IMO, as LR voters are drifting to the right towards the RN rather than towards the centre where Philippe wants to position himself. Similarly, Macronist Aurore Bergé made some really stupid comments on TV last night, but looking at the list this morning it hasn't made any difference, and the 3d place Ensemble candidates have all withdrawn.

EDIT: I hadn't looked at the 5 four-way runs; in two of them (Rhône 8 and Saône-et-Loire 5), the NFP and Ensemble candidates have not applied the general rule of stepping down where the RN candidate is leading.
 
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PsB said:
In practice, the Macron alliance has already withdrawn its 3d place candidates in favour of both LFI candidates and LFI dissidents (Ruffin).
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Good. Clearly a welcome development from yesterday. Nevertheless, as a statement in itself it shows Macron's shower up for what they are.
 
ks.234 said:
“The next government must take decisive action to reduce inequality or risk unprecedented far-right gains, a thinktank has warned”

Sadly, the next government is committed to reducing our potential to tackle inequality. The next government’s commitment is to the same policies that caused inequality in the first place.

As much as Starmer supporters try to deny it, it’s there in black and white
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The left has always thought that increasing misery for the working class would create support for socialism. Turns out that it can just as easily create support for fascism, and of course you get the bourgeoise too.
 
DonQuixote99 said:
The left has always thought that increasing misery for the working class would create support for socialism. Turns out that it can just as easily create support for fascism, and of course you get the bourgeoise too.
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The left are the least surprised by all his and have been warning about it for years.
 
DonQuixote99 said:
The left has always thought that increasing misery for the working class would create support for socialism. Turns out that it can just as easily create support for fascism, and of course you get the bourgeoise too.
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Some of us might’ve mentioned that once or twice.

Centrists celebrated loudly when Macron came to power in France and they will do so again when Starmer gains power here in a few days time. It doesn’t matter who’s in power, the trajectory of growing inequality has it’s own inherent predicable ends with clear and obvious historical precedents
 
Cheese said:
An old story. My old story is that Europe's Left has gone upmarket long ago (an expectable evolution, as its members have themselves climbed the social ladder from the 80's on), aiming specifically at higher educated voters, and losing every existing connection to the working class. Which was then eagerly courted by the far right, as can be seen very clearly in France, Germany and Austria. FPTP prevents this phenomenon in Britain, so it's only logical that the Tories jumped on this new market served on a plate by the Left, and therefore shifted to the right. So no, it's the young intellectual (and disconnected) left who is the principal enabler of the far right.
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Middle-class Corbyn atomised the working class here in Global Britain. Working-class Starmer understands that if Labour are to win the GE, it will have to repair the damage.
 
ks.234 said:
Some of us might’ve mentioned that once or twice.

Centrists celebrated loudly when Macron came to power in France and they will do so again when Starmer gains power here in a few days time. It doesn’t matter who’s in power, the trajectory of growing inequality has it’s own inherent predicable ends with clear and obvious historical precedents
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For the record, France's Gini coefficient has hovered between 0.28 and 0.30 for the last 40 or 50 years (it was higher in the 60s and 70s) regardless of which party was in power. There was a bit of a peak under Sarkozy (0.306 in 2011) and the last years for which I can find good stats are 2020 (0.277) and 2021 (0.294), although COVID phenomena disrupted both those years.'
https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2491918
So I would question your assertion of growing inequality under Macron.
 
PsB said:
For the record, France's Gini coefficient has hovered between 0.28 and 0.30 for the last 40 or 50 years (it was higher in the 60s and 70s) regardless of which party was in power. There was a bit of a peak under Sarkozy (0.306 in 2011) and the last years for which I can find good stats are 2020 (0.277) and 2021 (0.294), although COVID phenomena disrupted both those years.'
https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2491918
So I would question your assertion of growing inequality under Macron.
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You are correct. Apologies.
 
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