Richard Lines
pfm Member
Good morning all,
Apparently the "super fog" caused people to drive too fast????
Regards
Richard
Apparently the "super fog" caused people to drive too fast????
Regards
Richard
Reading the Ontario case, it was a truck driver braking that caused a following truck to brake sharply, jack-knife and block the road. You would expect truck drivers to be generally safer than the average drive-to-work-and-back motorist, so the conditions must have very definitely caught them by surprise.I guess if the fog is very dense, very quickly and unexpectedly, then almost everybody will be going too fast. The rest is pretty much inevitable. Even if the first drivers don't panic, and slow down carefully, sooner or later somebody is going to slam on...
Yes, according to that Wiki page, the fog went down to about 1m visibility pretty much instantaneously. Not knowing what lies immediately ahead, the natural reaction would be to brake. I don't think you can mitigate against that sort of risk, other than by having a strict low speed limit when fog is forecast, and even then, there will always be muppets.Reading the Ontario case, it was a truck driver braking that caused a following truck to brake sharply, jack-knife and block the road. You would expect truck drivers to be generally safer than the average drive-to-work-and-back motorist, so the conditions must have very definitely caught them by surprise.
Same as here? I've no idea of national U.S.A. speed limits or whether they differ state to state, but thought limits were marginally lower over there. Maybe you're right about the Christian ethic, or maybe, being Texans, they think they can simply shoot their way out of a crisis.most drivers did not slow down from 70mph.
I guess, being all "Christians" down there, they don't mind arriving in heaven a little earlier than planned.
We had similar on a motorbike on the M6. But everyone stopped, and the people in front of us invited us into their car until it abated.I also remember the M25 in a torrential storm once. Hardly anyone was slowing down but I had. Alas someone eventually aquaplaned and shut the road.
Am I the only one who read this as “Super frog pile-up” and was then disappointed to see it was actually about weather...?
@sean99 I used to work with a couple of Texans, and one of my co-workers was genuinely scared off using the 85 MPH stretch of TX-130 that runs from San Antonio to Austin: I told her that 85 MPH was fast, but at 135 km/h, it wasn’t far off the normal limit in continental Europe, and she said: “yeah, but this is Texas: over here everyone figures they should be doing 10 MPH over what’s on the sign, and quarter of them are drunk, and they’re all driving big ol’ trucks that take a quarter mile to stop”.