argustimewas
pfm Member
Schiit Saga+ has a valve & Saga S has no valve
Schiit Freya+ has four valves & Freya S has no valves
Schiit Freya+ has four valves & Freya S has no valves
Schiit saga plus pre amp and stereo
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If you read the description on the website it says that you can buy the Freya + either with valves included or without, in which case you supply your own. My question was whether the same applied to the Saga +, or if it always came supplied with a valve.
regards
Kevin
jamesd
pfm Member
just simply that the silver is harder to make without scratching it up, is what I read. Seems counterintuitive to me but I don’t know anything about manufacturing metal.
I have a few black and a few silver Schiit products. Both look good for what they are, so I think it’s just a personal preference. Forced to choose, I like the silver, but in my office I do enjoy looking at the black Gjallarhorn. It’s a cool looking little package. My Vahalla 2 in silver with 4 tubes sticking out the top looks cooler, but of course it does.
with regard to the saga,I swapped on a Khmozo dual mono and couldn’t hear any difference…
the sc22 is for sale on the classifieds
I discovered it was a combination of mains lead and strip plug socket.
There’s is a minor hum but no where near as bad and have a feeling the els57 aren’t helping.
Tried attenuators doesn’t make any difference.
Item was bought second hand, but came with a Russian valve.
Indecently the valve stays lit all the time.
I run it in passive mode without the valve installed.
Have recently got a 10k dual mono Khmozo for a second system,and there is no difference with my ears.
There’s is a minor hum but no where near as bad and have a feeling the els57 aren’t helping.
Tried attenuators doesn’t make any difference.
Item was bought second hand, but came with a Russian valve.
Indecently the valve stays lit all the time.
I run it in passive mode without the valve installed.
Have recently got a 10k dual mono Khmozo for a second system,and there is no difference with my ears.
AndrewR
pfm Member
It is down to the consistency of colour and finish from the top-plate suppliers. By spray-painting black it reduces the occurrence of rejects and keeps the cost down.
Andrew
I’m trying a Saga + at the moment with my Leak ST20. Initially load hum. Put the iFi GND Defender on the back of the Saga - no hum. These things work really well for me. Luckily the Saga has a normal AC inlet on the back rather than relying on an off board power supply with a 3.5mm plug into the amp.
Sound wise the Saga is as good as my Khozmo. Convenience wise - excellent. The clicks of the volume control turning when using the remote are quieter than the Khozmo.
Kevin
Have u tried swapping out the factory mains lead,it cured my hum pretty much?
I now run mine passive all the time,with the tube removed as this stays on regardless of modes unless removed.
Agree with you soundwise,i have a dual mono khmozo 10k pot and its as good as in my ears.
Sounds really sharp with the 306 also.
I honestly think its the best bit of kit i have bought,like u say convenience wise also excellent.
Did u go black or silver ?Looks like you pre amp journey is finally over[/QUOTE]
I now run mine passive all the time,with the tube removed as this stays on regardless of modes unless removed.
Agree with you soundwise,i have a dual mono khmozo 10k pot and its as good as in my ears.
Sounds really sharp with the 306 also.
I honestly think its the best bit of kit i have bought,like u say convenience wise also excellent.
Did u go black or silver ?Looks like you pre amp journey is finally over
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Have u tried swapping out the factory mains lead,it cured my hum pretty much?
I now run mine passive all the time,with the tube removed as this stays on regardless of modes unless removed.
Agree with you soundwise,i have a dual mono khmozo 10k pot and its as good as in my ears.
Sounds really sharp with the 306 also.
I honestly think its the best bit of kit i have bought,like u say convenience wise also excellent.
Did u go black or silver ?Looks like you pre amp journey is finally over
I haven’t tried a different mains lead. May give that a go tomorrow.
I went for silver as black was ‘out of stock’, though I'm not too bothered by the colour.
Yes, I think this pre pretty much meets my needs, although who knows what ideas I may have in the future.
regards
Kevin
Alex S
carbon based lifeform
Interesting. Kevin, can you remind me which Khozmo you have? The Saga is single ended only afaik so I'd be looking at a Freya to replace Khozmo single ended (ST20) and a Dac VC balanced (Genelecs).
Any thoughts on Freya+ or SS, anyone? My other option is the Topping Pre90 - both equally liked-ish by Stereophile.
My Khozmo has 3 RCA inputs and 2 RCA outputs, a single stereo remote controlled volume (20k I believe) and is apparently upgraded with Amtrans AMRG resistors.
If it had remote control of its input selector I would not have bothered looking for alternatives.
Kevin
Riotvan
Snoofer in the Woofer
I definitely like the + more than the S. The s had a steely timbre i could not get past, jfet buffer mode on the + is a lot better. Tube is naturally a bit smoother, more flavorful etc and customizable. But to my ears the buffered mode was more transparent. It’s a reasonably close second the to the Saga, passive mode with Freya was never for me, either i needed both xlr and rca outs for subs or it did not have enough drive, sounded a bit limp.
But decided to let go of the Freya+ anyway and looking for something else to consolidate pre and headphone duties.(shameless plug)
But decided to let go of the Freya+ anyway and looking for something else to consolidate pre and headphone duties.(shameless plug)