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Other people's driving

I have a 64 plate car and it has no phone connectivity at all. But I simply don't use my phone when driving.

I’m sure you know it’s not about ‘using your phone while driving’?
The music and navigation is on my phone. Siri is on my phone. Hands-free messaging is available. (Much quicker to say the message than type it, even if you’re in a lay-by).
That’s just for starters.
 
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I’m sure you know it’s not about ‘using your phone while driving’?
The music and navigation is on my phone. Siri is on my phone. Hands-free messaging is available. (Much quicker to say the message than type it, even if you’re in a lay-by).
That’s just for starters.
My music is on the car radio and CDs. Navigation is on the SatNav. Don't have (or want) Siri. And I don't really message, I much prefer to speak.
My phone is mainly... a phone! Weird, huh?
 
My music is on the car radio and CDs. Navigation is on the SatNav. Don't have (or want) Siri. And I don't really message, I much prefer to speak.
My phone is mainly... a phone! Weird, huh?
No, it’s not weird lol.
But, CD player? Nope, nowhere to be seen in my car.
Sat Nav? I have it built in to the car, but compared to Google Maps from my phone appearing on the car’s info screen, it’s horrible. And I don’t want a big block of sat nav plastic on my dash or windscreen. That went out over 20 years ago.
Siri? Ok I rarely use it, but it’s there, and it’s quite handy.

Saying you only use a phone as a phone is, to me, like saying you only use a desktop or laptop for word processing and spreadsheets!
 
I have a 64 plate car and it has no phone connectivity at all. But I simply don't use my phone when driving.

Same as my old Suzuki but i spent £40 on a little thing from Jabra (?) that clips onto the sun visor and does voice controlled integration with my phone.

There's room on my instrument panel to put the phone in front of the speedo so i can use maps.

Dead easy.
 
Same as my old Suzuki but i spent £40 on a little thing from Jabra (?) that clips onto the sun visor and does voice controlled integration with my phone.

There's room on my instrument panel to put the phone in front of the speedo so i can use maps.

Dead easy.
Great idea!
 
But it's a very low bar.
And that’s true… if 93% of drivers are bloody atrocious, as they are on the M1 past Leicester for example, then anyone who actually has their brain engaged while driving and has the slightest consideration for others will be in that 7%.

So I’m obviously in the top 0.7%.
 
Can be a driving test fail, particularly if you allow a queue to build behind you. Not aware of the speed limit, incapable of controlling the vehicle, unobservant, etc.
I failed my first test for doing just this. I thought I'd be clever and drive at 27mph instead of 30mph so I had no chance of breaking the limit monetarily. "Failure to make adequate progress".

In retrospect I agree with the failure decision. Our roads are crowded and the last thing we want is added congestion because someone is driving way below the speed limit. Lots of first hand experience of dual carriageways and twin lane motorways where even in dry conditions with good visibility lots of car drivers are plodding along at 50-60mph. Then Mr Truck Driver works out he can attain 0.00568mph more than Mr Magoo in his car, so so he pulls out to overtake........ 40 minutes later Mr TD then completes his manoeuvre and pulls back in having created a 16 mile tailback of cars who wanted nothing more than to drive at 70mph.
 
I failed my first test for doing just this. I thought I'd be clever and drive at 27mph instead of 30mph so I had no chance of breaking the limit monetarily. "Failure to make adequate progress".

. . .

I passed first time, aided by a speedo that wobbled between 27 and 33 when you were doing 30! The instructor’s own car broke down on the morning of the test and I had to use my mum’s car - which somehow or other got the approval of the examiner despite this issue. That was 1979 - it wouldn’t go down well nowadays I don’t suppose.
 
Since it's clear that way too many people decide its acceptable to text while driving (i.e. the immediate sending of their text is more important than my life) we need to take that freedom away from them and relieve them of the hardship they suffer in trying what is right for society as opposed to themselves.

Why can't it become law that all car manufactures and phone manufactures install a protocol whereby a car containing a phone shuts down incoming notifications and outgoing calls and texts unless the phone is paired with a hands free kit that allows texting. Any attempt to text on the phone itself powers the phone down. Any second phone suffers the same fate, hard lines for the passenger, but the greater good needs to be served.
 
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The instructor’s own car broke down on the morning of the test

i had that on one of my tests - i learnt everything on a mk 3 escort, and it broke down on the morning of the test.....he managed to scrounge a mk2 which id never driven (not that i should matter) - the change threw me and i failed. Probably deservedly...
 


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