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Opinions on stageline vs. 323 boards

Discussion in 'audio' started by jwilding, Nov 23, 2010.

  1. jwilding

    jwilding pfm Member

    Wondering if a stageline k would be an upgrade over 323k boards in a 32.5 pre.
    or are they the same? Does anyone have experience with this?

  2. Gaius

    Gaius Trade: Stiletto by Tangerine

    I've spoken to Naim on this, I have a 72 so very similar.

    The Stageline is effectivley the cards in a box.

    Upside is better isolation and can take dedicated power supply.

    Downside is another cable in the chain and cost.

    Don't forget when CD became the main format the built in phoho stage stopped and we then had line only amps; more to do with cost cutting I'm sure.

    Now vinyl is in demand again everyone has to make a separate off board phono stage.

    The Stageline can be powered direct from the modern Naim pre amps but would need at a min an i supply to work with your 32.5 but can take a FC or HC too.

    I've stayed with the cards.
  3. jwilding

    jwilding pfm Member

    Thanks Gaius,

    That is exactly the info I was looking for.

  4. Eyebroughty

    Eyebroughty JohnC


    I have a 32.5 with two different sets of 323's that I can use.

    I upgraded to an external phono stage, took the 323 boards out the 32.5, put in wire links and the difference was quite marked.

    I accept that the phono stage I have is not a stageline but I suspect you would get the same order of difference in favour of the stageline as I did going to my phono stage.

    I talked to a number of people including Naim a while back and they all suggested an external phono stage would give better results.

    However as with most things you really need to hear one to decide.


  5. uncl_nigel

    uncl_nigel pfm Member

    The Stageline is worthwhile if you are going to feed it from its own power supply and remove the phonocards from the pre. If you do this your pre-amp AND your Stageline will both sound better.
    Otherwise keep your phonocards and buy a present for your partner.
  6. hornblower

    hornblower pfm Member

    Thanks also, Gaius, this has answered quite a few questions for me also.


  7. misterc6

    misterc6 Wasted and wounded, it ain’t what the moon did

    If you are using a Stageline with a good quality external power supply then it will outperform 323 cards in a 32.5 for a number of reasons. The main reason is that each channel has a separate dedicated power rail rather than sharing a single rail, possibly with other boards, in the 32.5. I'm not sure but it's also possible that more recent Stagelines are more like the 523 than the 323.

    An alternative approach, which is well documented in the DIY forum, is to feed the 32.5 with a single raw dc supply and put individual regulators inside the 32.5 - one for every board that you are using. That will improve its performance on all sources and cost a great deal less than a Stageline plus power supply.

  8. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    Prefix and a DIY teddycap..
  9. jwilding

    jwilding pfm Member

    Thanks to all for responding. Very helpful.

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