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Onkyo - gone bust

Amber Audio said:
Honestly cannot recall any trend of dissatisfied owners and the problems you had. I installed several of them in the early 2000’s and never had any of those issues, all plasmas of that era buzzed and pumped out heat so had to have fans, once isf calibrated there was nothing to touch them at that time for pic quality, my own one and the senior installers one are still working fine at our houses, that’s 15 years and it’s still about as good a Blu Ray pic as you’ll get.

They were used as the benchmark TV in tests for years after they were discontinued, Kuro TVs are still well regarded there are specialist outfits in the UK who refurb/keep them going such is their reputation and plenty of fan/positive reviews out there.

https://www.cnet.com/culture/will-any-2011-tv-best-the-2008-pioneer-kuro/

https://www.kuroking.com/

https://planethifi.com/pioneer-kuro/
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You just need to Google 'Kuro buzz' ...

Anyway, one product I didn't mind seeing the back of.
 
Onkyo the company will disappear. But Onkyo the brand will continue on. VOXX, International purchased Onkyo’s AV division in 2021 and has contracted with Sharp to manufacture products at a facility once jointly owned by Sharp and Onkyo.

So VOXX carries the Onkyo ball down the field now. Let’s hope they have a savvy business plan to revitalize the brand.
 
Had many an Onkyo micro system when I was young they were very good and great value. I had it in the loft hooked it up to my tannoy dc6t's and it was amazing, really blew me away what it could do.
I will miss them for that alone
 
They made the only HiMd minidisc deck I believe. I always wanted one but they were never importe here ( UK) other than as grey imports with dubious guarantee.
 
flatpopely said:
I always fancied one of these:-

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Is that the A-9000R Dual mono integrated?
 
I wanted to buy their mini all-in-one, as it had excellent screen and specs (Spotify, Chromecast, internet radio, etc), but was unavailable for years. Never in stock anywhere.

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Brand names are just another traded asset. Very few are still associated with the people or the engineering organisations who first made them worth knowing but might have some marketing value because the public imagine they are. If that value fades they're dropped in a filing cabinet to be disinterred and "revitalised" or the rights sold maybe in a few decades.

The more successful car industry conglomorates tend to take care to preserve some engineering continuity in their brand portfolios but not many others do. Look at white goods like Electrolux or Hotpoint or all the attempts by mnay different people to build new Nortons or Ariels or AJS's or Morini's or even Maserati's or Lancia's and Alfa's or Bugatti's. It's just badges stuck on stuff.

Onkyo has been just a badge for ages. cf Audiolab, Marantz, Luxman, Aiwa, Roberts, Victor and countless others. Look at all the hi-fi brands owned by Harmon International (now owned in turn by Samsung) : JBL. Mark Levinson, Martin, Harmon Kardon, Bang & Olufsen (car audio) and loads of others. Most, if not just badges already, will be just badges eventually.

Like it or not buyers would do better to look at product these days and completely ignore brand.
 
wd40addict said:
Trouble is the middle market for separates has just disappeared. The vast majority of under 35s are listening on Bluetooth soundbars or headphones with their phone as the source.
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Exactly, nobody buy large cabinet AV receivers nowadays.
 
mmm thats sad . i use an onkyo sacd player as a transport and its very good .

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Onkyo shuts down. The once-honoured Japanese hi-fi brand has gone bankrupt. Thus ends a chapter in audio history that has lasted since 1946.

With debts of 3.1 billion yen (about 23 million euros), Onkyo could no longer make ends meet. And on Friday, the company itself filed for bankruptcy in Osaka District Court. So writes the business media Nikkei.

There was a time when Onkyo’s demise would have sent shockwaves through the audio world. That’s not going to happen. Probably few will notice. And some will ask: Who was Onkyo?

But the world has changed, and Onkyo hasn’t been able to keep up. Gone are the days when hi-fi was a people’s passtime. We still listen to music, but the heavy hi-fi rack in the living room has been replaced by portable audio, auto stereo and wireless multi-room speakers.

There are still enthusiasts who spend fortunes on stereo. But then the equipment becomes super-expensive and exclusive. And Onkyo was never that. Onkyo stood for reasonable mid-range equipment at reasonable prices.


Onkyo’s fall comes as no surprise either. The company has been in crisis for years. And while they did manage to come up with good products, like the Onkyo TX-8270 stereo receiver, the market was too small to accommodate the smaller brands.


https://www.lbtechreviews.com/news/...honoured Japanese hi,no longer make ends meet.
 
messengerman said:
Brand names are just another traded asset. Very few are still associated with the people or the engineering organisations who first made them worth knowing but might have some marketing value because the public imagine they are. If that value fades they're dropped in a filing cabinet to be disinterred and "revitalised" or the rights sold maybe in a few decades.

The more successful car industry conglomorates tend to take care to preserve some engineering continuity in their brand portfolios but not many others do. Look at white goods like Electrolux or Hotpoint or all the attempts by mnay different people to build new Nortons or Ariels or AJS's or Morini's or even Maserati's or Lancia's and Alfa's or Bugatti's. It's just badges stuck on stuff.

Onkyo has been just a badge for ages. cf Audiolab, Marantz, Luxman, Aiwa, Roberts, Victor and countless others. Look at all the hi-fi brands owned by Harmon International (now owned in turn by Samsung) : JBL. Mark Levinson, Martin, Harmon Kardon, Bang & Olufsen (car audio) and loads of others. Most, if not just badges already, will be just badges eventually.

Like it or not buyers would do better to look at product these days and completely ignore brand.
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Exception to the rule being Quad? Hang on...I know they have been bought out..but still very good equipment and exceptional customer service..
 
PerF said:
Exactly, nobody buy large cabinet AV receivers nowadays.
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Not sure that’s accurate, seems to me that plenty of AV units still get sold, a lot more than old fashioned Hi Fi Amps, big Yammy, Arcam, Anthem and Denon etc. sell well, just have a gander at UK and USA AVForum/s. Arcam have 3 hifi amps and more than a dozen AV units on offer.
 
hifinutt said:
mmm thats sad . i use an onkyo sacd player as a transport and its very good .

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Onkyo shuts down. The once-honoured Japanese hi-fi brand has gone bankrupt. Thus ends a chapter in audio history that has lasted since 1946.

With debts of 3.1 billion yen (about 23 million euros), Onkyo could no longer make ends meet. And on Friday, the company itself filed for bankruptcy in Osaka District Court. So writes the business media Nikkei.

There was a time when Onkyo’s demise would have sent shockwaves through the audio world. That’s not going to happen. Probably few will notice. And some will ask: Who was Onkyo?

But the world has changed, and Onkyo hasn’t been able to keep up. Gone are the days when hi-fi was a people’s passtime. We still listen to music, but the heavy hi-fi rack in the living room has been replaced by portable audio, auto stereo and wireless multi-room speakers.

There are still enthusiasts who spend fortunes on stereo. But then the equipment becomes super-expensive and exclusive. And Onkyo was never that. Onkyo stood for reasonable mid-range equipment at reasonable prices.


Onkyo’s fall comes as no surprise either. The company has been in crisis for years. And while they did manage to come up with good products, like the Onkyo TX-8270 stereo receiver, the market was too small to accommodate the smaller brands.


https://www.lbtechreviews.com/news/hi-fi/onkyo-has-gone-bankrupt#:~:text=The once-honoured Japanese hi,no longer make ends meet.
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What hifi liked them...surely that's a lot of sales in itself?
 
Hi, it always amazes me that a bank would loan £20,000,000, to a failing business, i understand it comes in drips and drabs, but still, i would love to be in £20 million debt, they seem to hand out cash to company's, while joe public struggles to get a mortgage,
 
Amber Audio said:
Not sure that’s accurate, seems to me that plenty of AV units still get sold, a lot more than old fashioned Hi Fi Amps, big Yammy, Arcam, Anthem and Denon etc. sell well, just have a gander at UK and USA AVForum/s. Arcam have 3 hifi amps and more than a dozen AV units on offer.
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My musical fidelity HTP 6000 seems very good value..fine two channel pre amp..fine dac too..plus a load of video TV stuff which I have less than no interest in..I have a old yamaha reciever and it's sounds very fine with a pair of my dynaudios...if a youngling wanted some hifi advice? A old yamaha reciever pair of dynaudio 42s job done! Van Godamme cabling until the younglings gets a better job! Then LFD cables...yamaha natural sound is rather splendid
 
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