Old and new Mini next to each other

[richardg]

No no no, not THAT old Mini, an old new next to a new new…



Doesn’t even look like a Mini now, just a generic ugly modern car.

It's defo a Mini from the front, but I must admit I had to zoom in on that to see what brand of car it was.

 

[richardg]

I suffered 500 miles per week for ten years, many with the Merc. 500Nm was useful, but the racket of that uncouth four cylinder lump was draining.

Recent Passat, estate, petrol 1.5 turbo Miller cycle engine, 42-52mpg. In many ways the best car I’ve had, but on the local suffolk roads it’s too wide.

I crave a modern version of the 106 Rallye.

Meaning it must feel nippy without a turbo and weigh under 900kg?

Not sure it's ever coming round again. NA 2.0 Clio is the most recent thing I can remember like that, stopped in 2014? But still a fair bit heavier.

 

[Tarzan]

@Jezzer Not really a carist but your Mini looks well cool!

 

[RJohan]

In the BL days a car that size should have been called Maxi.

 

[Tony Lockhart]

Meaning it must feel nippy without a turbo and weigh under 900kg?

Not sure it's ever coming round again. NA 2.0 Clio is the most recent thing I can remember like that, stopped in 2014? But still a fair bit heavier.

No, I said a modern version of it. Under 900kg could be done, but it would need a carbon fibre shell and aluminium subframes. That would be £££.

 

[chartz]

Uuuugly, as Steve Jobs put it when the iMac was released.
I was overtaken by a BMW Mini on the motorway yesterday. Actually it’s not a mini anymore, it’s much bigger than my own ‘normal’ car. Customers for those? It seems that they are German car lovers nowadays who buy them. They race with Audis and BMWs on the road.

 

[Tony Lockhart]

Just checked…

Suzuki Ignis, from 895kg.
Thats still about 90kg more than a 1.3 Rallye, but material choices would get you most of the way there.

A workmate is building a Silva Riot at the moment. Heavily modified/strengthened 1.6 Ford Ecoboost, 330bhp.
The car weighs 400kg.

Thankfully, he can drive, and drive properly.

 

[richardg]

No, I said a modern version of it. Under 900kg could be done, but it would need a carbon fibre shell and aluminium subframes. That would be £££.

So the Yaris GR should do the job just nicely. Still plenty of £££!

 

[Ellenor]

So what? All sorts end up parked at shopping centres, that's what people do. You or I may not, but normal people don't buy £500 mains cables. Not that you or I do, but some around here do, and I don't understand it either.

Don’t take it too seriously

 

[Tony Lockhart]

So the Yaris GR should do the job just nicely. Still plenty of £££!

And over 1200kg. And four wheel drive…

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

Cars seem to be getting wider at the same rate that parking spaces get narrower. Something's gotta give.

 

[Barrymagrec]

Cars seem to be getting wider at the same rate that parking spaces get narrower. Something's gotta give.

Many of the occupants as well.

 

[vacuum_tubes]

Any connection between current models and the classic original has become token and largely incidental.

In the 70's my parents had a Mini as that was all they could afford. Of all the (bad) car choices my dad made he hated the Mini the most as it was an absolute nightmare to work on the engine.

I bought one as my first car and have to agree with him, the originals are cold in winter, damp in winter, rust like crazy and nothing but a source of grazed knuckles when trying to work on. The original mini is nothing but a nostalgia piece that should only be looked at.

That new Mini looks absolutely hideous.

 

[artoly]

Was Goodbye Pork Pie popular in the UK? Original movie was in 1981 and a remake in 2017 (with models roughly from those times). It's what I most associate with Mini's....if I want to think of them fondly.
https://teara.govt.nz/en/video/37532/goodbye-pork-pie-1981

Or this Mk1 that does 146.6 mph (236 kmh).
https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/ne...arks-up-at-nelsons-wow-and-classic-car-museum

Edit. I almost forgot Mr Bean.

 

[Brown Bottle]

I don't really see the problem, it's clearly still a Mini, it's just bigger, like everything else. A work colleague had a Vauxhall Corsa courtesy car last week, it's way bigger than the original Astra. I certainly don't think the Pinkfish demographic is the target for Mini anyway.

Cheers BB

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

In the 70's my parents had a Mini as that was all they could afford. Of all the (bad) car choices my dad made he hated the Mini the most as it was an absolute nightmare to work on the engine.

I bought one as my first car and have to agree with him, the originals are cold in winter, damp in winter, rust like crazy and nothing but a source of grazed knuckles when trying to work on. The original mini is nothing but a nostalgia piece that should only be looked at.

That new Mini looks absolutely hideous.

I remember working on the original Minis and agree with you entirely. However, they were also massive fun to drive, entertaining at sane road speeds, something which few modern cars achieve, and fewer still at affordable money.

 

[gintonic]

I certainly don't think the Pinkfish demographic is the target for Mini anyway.

oh no it's on my shortlist of two...

 

[Brown Bottle]

oh no it's on my shortlist of two...

What's the other one?

Cheers BB

 

[gintonic]

What's the other one?

Cheers BB

Cupra Formentor (face lift version - when it shows itself)

 

[tones]

In the 70's my parents had a Mini as that was all they could afford. Of all the (bad) car choices my dad made he hated the Mini the most as it was an absolute nightmare to work on the engine.

I bought one as my first car and have to agree with him, the originals are cold in winter, damp in winter, rust like crazy and nothing but a source of grazed knuckles when trying to work on. The original mini is nothing but a nostalgia piece that should only be looked at.

Never owned one, but I know people who did, and they totally agree with you. On the other hand, it did revolutionise the small car market, and people making small cars copied the basic idea of a transverse engine, but without all the initial compromises (gears in the sump, radiator in the side, leaving the distributor exposed to the elements, problems with the primitive rubber universal joints). Then, of course, there was BMC's renowned quality control and dedicated workforce...