NHS.
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Mmmm just think of all those babyboomers needing parts replaced in 10 years time! Then 20...then 30....40......
MikeMA
pfm Member
Yes and we don't pay NI contributions either.
Jo, I can assure you that you are wrong - the boat is run by Brits but the missile system is not. Hence it is not an independent deterrent, which is one of the points I made in my earlier post. Our politicians of all parties 'pretend' that we have a finger on the nuclear button for 'vanity' reasons (seat at the top table and it suits our 'friends' across the pond) but it ain't really true. Do you know any nuclear sub-mariners that you could ask?
Dave.
Paid it for 50 years though which helped to cover the safe arrival of those self centred younger ones into the world
.Dave.
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
Genius!
Well. barking mad which is close.
My old Mum turned 90 last week. She has Alzheimer's, is far from skeletal and is living happily in a home where 'now' is really all that matters to her.
And you didn't mention the men.
Somewhat mysoginistic wouldn't you say?
Yeah probably.
Still it'll happen so sit back and wait. I wouldn't want my parents last few years laying in a bed in pain or just staring into the distance not knowing who I am. Bloody pointless and cruel.
Differs from case to case however, I'm not saying it's Logan's Run for the the over 80's.
Well more Old Dolly's Shuffle I guess.
MikeMA
pfm Member
Paid it for 50 years though which helped to cover the safe arrival of those self centred younger ones into the world
Dave.
True, but it's 'pay-as-you-go', and at the moment its all 'go' and not enough 'pay' as the population ages.
When I first was 'persuaded' to pay for this many years ago it was called 'National Health Insurance', repeat, Insurance. With insurance schemes the arrangement is that you pay into it and claim on it when you meet the criteria for claiming, in this case need outside medical care. If any government were to openly confess that, irrespective of your needs, you cannot claim after you reach a certain age I think there would be a very vigorous public reaction. To avoid this they are trying to slide it in under the radar and it seems to be being quietly encouraged by some of our more selfish younger members of the population - perhaps they ought to consider what will happen if and when they reach that cut-off age.
Here's a thought - even badly emaciated old bodies contain enough fat to burn readily in the right circumstances I understand - could be a partial answer to fulfilling the need for renewable sources of energy and kill two birds with one stone
.Dave.
Jo Sharp
Pulls on doors marked push
I do indeed..a friend who commanded a missile boat for several years, but I don't need to ask him!
The missile itself is a US design, the warheads are UK designed and built ( and I have stood next to several of them in a UK weapons facility).
The whole point of an independent deterrent in the hands of UK and France was critical to NATO strategy; that if Russia used nuclear weapons only in Europe the americans might not commit their weapons in retaliation. But the Russian calculation became far more complex and uncertain if they knew that 2 european powers had their own second strike systems out of US control.
A radio diuscussion about what is to happen after the shit has hit the fan http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0210spf/Letter_of_Last_Resort_The_Discussion/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_of_last_resort
http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7758000/7758347.stm
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
Slight exaggeration there I think Chris..
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
Me neither, though I think that so long as they remain lucid, the choice should be theirs.
doctorf
left footed right winger
I think Chris is fairly close to the mark.
The NHS has become a very bloated job creation scheme and in doing so it is becoming even more inefficient at providing its core services.
It could be solved fairly easily IMHO but the unions would scream very loudly and the public would be scared shitless and the outcry would put paid to any real change. Pressure groups such as the Patient's Association would have a field day.
Simon
The NHS has become a very bloated job creation scheme and in doing so it is becoming even more inefficient at providing its core services.
It could be solved fairly easily IMHO but the unions would scream very loudly and the public would be scared shitless and the outcry would put paid to any real change. Pressure groups such as the Patient's Association would have a field day.
Simon