he probably couldn't tell the difference in a blind tasting anywayAnd as the Illuninos vino de la luz is 10 x the price of the Travento, not really a worthwhile comparison…
he probably couldn't tell the difference in a blind tasting anywayAnd as the Illuninos vino de la luz is 10 x the price of the Travento, not really a worthwhile comparison…
he probably couldn't tell the difference in a blind tasting anyway
You see, this sort of thing can help to shape misleading impressions. If I had either of those speakers, the Lavardin, much as I like them, would not even make my shortlist if you wanted realistic listening levels.
Partner them with the right speakers and they are capable of a spaciously large presentation with levels of revealed detail and delicacy that the Naim amps simply can't compete with IME having had both. However, Shahinian or passive ATCs would need much more grunt to be driven properly and some Naim amps (preferably more powerful than the Supernait) may well be ideal.
Who’s?now whos being patronising
Tannoys and Focal were the ones I’ve heard most often. Fyne Audio would doubtless go on the list too. Easy loads and fairly efficient, with good time alignment and coherence, which all play to the Lavardin strengths, IME.What are the common speakers which sound good with the Lavardin IS Reference? Just curious.
As the UK distributor I feel your findings are completely unfounded
Unfair. It’s not like he’s hiding his motives here.Shill.
Both amps offer different types of musical presentation - pick the one that suits your personal preferences.
Shill.
What annoys me is the arrogance to tell people what they hear is wrong and your opinion as a fact or objective like Midlandaudiox has done too.
Naim audio and Lavardin aside let’s not forget some of the super sounding vintage items that make mincemeat of both brands
Never intended to come across as arrogant just my point of view and it’s all subjective to the individual and to the system and environment
The issue, pure and simple, is that as a dealer, you have horses in the race.
Your “point of view” is extremely likely to be biased. Nothing more, or less, than that.
My opinion is objective to the extent that the context I’ve heard both in was a room used by a designer of a well know DAC/streamer. Room was acoustically treated and all devices which pass through were measured to death. Thus when you assert the Lavardin has “thin” bass I have to laugh and stand by my assertion that whilst that’s what you undoubtedly heard you were certainly not hearing the Lavardin as is.
When you have, you would be perfectly entitled to assert that you prefer the presentation of the Naim. Objectively better? No. The distance between them is significant. Deeper more precise and slightly warmer bass from the Lavardin. Stunning mid range detail from the Lavardin. Certainly takes its time to show but then it’s not an immediate amp. Slightly less PRaT if that’s your thing but the Lavardin flows better and is noticeably more coherent. The Lavardin is also way more timbrally accurate and presents significantly more of the acoustic environment on recordings. In Naim terms it’s the difference between an original bare CDX2 and a CDS3 with an XPS2. One rocks and os infectious and in your face. You’re on the stage or in the front row. The CDS2 puts you a few rows back but makes you realise how poorly the CDX2 does timbral accuracy. For many years I preferred my CDX2. There is no doubt the CDS3 was better though.
By that argument, any dealer is a shill. That’s absurd. And what about people with something to sell in the classifieds? If they discuss its virtues in a thread, are they shills too?The issue, pure and simple, is that as a dealer, you have horses in the race.
Your “point of view” is extremely likely to be biased. Nothing more, or less, than that.