My 7th Loudspeaker Building Adventure (MaxiKan) ...
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James
Often great minds think alike but thought this might be of interest
http://www.peak-consult.dk/
Mark
Often great minds think alike but thought this might be of interest
http://www.peak-consult.dk/
Mark
James
Lord of the Erg\o/s
Mark,scolarest said:
Thanks for the compliment, but I assure you the resemblance is purely coincidental. I learnt about Peak Consult after I had built the E-Vs, when the Marketing Manager of Densen pointed out the similarity of the E-Vs to the El Diablos. Nonetheless, there are some significant differences in my designs. The most obvious is that all Ergos are sealed, whereas PCs are all ported. Less obvious is the exclusive use of paper-pulp cones in the Ergos, whereas PCs use polypropylene-based cones from Audio Technologies. AT makes some of the best (and most expensive) drivers in the world, but I prefer the 'coloration' of paper. Last, but not least, is that the Ergos use large radius roundovers on the baffle rather than straight bevel cuts. I believe radiused baffles better disperse diffraction and sound smoother than sharpish corners.
That said, I've never heard any PC design and so I cannot comment whether the Ergos sound better or not. But given the different method of loading the woofer, I'm certain that they will sound different. As to which line up looks better, I'd leave it up to your judgement.
James
divedeepdog
pfm Member
The reason i ask, i heard the Peak Consult El Diablo at the 2007 Stereophile show and i heard the original Sonus Faber Amati Homage speakers. .
I haven't heard the Sonus Faber Stradivari speakers.
The Peak Consult El Diablo's sounded really good.
They had a nice midrange and the bass was tight and upbeat.
With the Sonus Faber Amati Homage speakeers, the midrange was sweet sounding, but the Amati Homage had no bass extension.
The El Diablo speakers had a superior bass response.
I'm thinking the bass wasn't good on the Amati Homage cause they had a deep cabinet.
That El Diablo cabinet was a perfect design.
Thats why i was curious about your Ergo E-Vs speakers.
Just looking at it, the cabinet design looks great and is perfect for most rooms.
Where the Sonus Faber Stradivari type speakers need a large room cause of how wide the speakers are with the wing design.
I haven't heard the Sonus Faber Stradivari speakers.
The Peak Consult El Diablo's sounded really good.
They had a nice midrange and the bass was tight and upbeat.
With the Sonus Faber Amati Homage speakeers, the midrange was sweet sounding, but the Amati Homage had no bass extension.
The El Diablo speakers had a superior bass response.
I'm thinking the bass wasn't good on the Amati Homage cause they had a deep cabinet.
That El Diablo cabinet was a perfect design.
Thats why i was curious about your Ergo E-Vs speakers.
Just looking at it, the cabinet design looks great and is perfect for most rooms.
Where the Sonus Faber Stradivari type speakers need a large room cause of how wide the speakers are with the wing design.
James
Lord of the Erg\o/s
It's been over 15 years since I designed the E-VIIs. I feel inclined to rebuild a pair, having found a spare set of Scan-speak 18W/8535-00 and 2905/9300000 drivers in my stash. The XO schematic is intact too. It'll be a simple matter of recalculating the box dimensions to yield 20L of enclosed volume, and getting the angle of the baffle from my archived photos.
It will be a somewhat more complicated woodworking challenge though ...
Would be interested to know if there is any interest.
It will be a somewhat more complicated woodworking challenge though ...
Would be interested to know if there is any interest.
Mike Hanson
Trying to understand...
I may be, although it wouldn't be until at least the fall. I really do plan to finish the PFM Special first.It's been over 15 years since I designed the E-VIIs. I feel inclined to rebuild a pair, having found a spare set of Scan-speak 18W/8535-00 and 2905/9300000 drivers in my stash. The XO schematic is intact too. It'll be a simple matter of recalculating the box dimensions to yield 20L of enclosed volume, and getting the angle of the baffle from my archived photos.
It will be a somewhat more complicated woodworking challenge though ...
Would be interested to know if there is any interest.
IIRC, it's the same tweeter, right?
James
Lord of the Erg\o/s
Same as the Garf's updated version. I originally specified a cheaper Seas tweeter, but the 930000 is a much better HF transducer.
chiily
PFM Special Builder
15 years, really...time flies by (when you're the driver of the train and you ride on the foot plate there and back again - ah, my youth).It's been over 15 years since I designed the E-VIIs. I feel inclined to rebuild a pair, having found a spare set of Scan-speak 18W/8535-00 and 2905/9300000 drivers in my stash. The XO schematic is intact too. It'll be a simple matter of recalculating the box dimensions to yield 20L of enclosed volume, and getting the angle of the baffle from my archived photos.
It will be a somewhat more complicated woodworking challenge though ...
Would be interested to know if there is any interest.
They still look sparklingly modern to me, very sharp design James. The Specials still draw comments from people, "what are those?", And "bloody hell they sound nice", and they do sound great. And I do love their room dominance.
I'm not up for the generation of sawdust, mores the pity. Domestic circumstances change.
The 2905/9300 is very sweet, with plenty of sparkle and no glare.
We wanna see more sawdust...