S-Man
StrivingON
Robert used to rant vociferously that all amps sound the same. Probably best that some of his posts no longer exist!
Mains IEC Connectors, I never realised !!
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Robert used to rant vociferously that all amps sound the same. Probably best that some of his posts no longer exist!
Mike Reed
pfm Member
Gosh! A thread about IEC plugs turns into a no-holds-barred mains installation fracas. Although I've scanned posts, I'm still not sure what all the fuss is about. Ho hum.....! On another mains oriented thread I got some useful knowledge about the reg's covering safety precautions adjacent or within reach of appliances (or in this case, hifi kit).
Meanwhile, must look for my hard hat in case Gav's prediction above holds water.
Meanwhile, must look for my hard hat in case Gav's prediction above holds water.
simon g
Older, wiser but no longer retired
@thommy. You really do need to listen to the people here who do actually know what they're talking about. It seems as if you don't. Seriously, don't muck about with stuff that you think you know about, when really you don't have a complete understanding. I would suggest that you have a properly qualified electrician visit your home to determine the safety, or otherwise, of your installation along with to what extent it complies with current regulations.
Craig B
Re:trophile
You mean, a simple post about £70 each IEC plugs?
Thread should morph into a discussion as to whether or not one should have £70 each mains sockets installed in order to 'justify' having £70 each IEC plugs.
If changing IECs makes that much difference, imagine how much better again it would be if someone did something totally crazy, such as running a 13A cable *in a single run through a hole in the back of the case* via a suitable cable clamp/gland arrangement and connected that directly to the power supply transformer via soldered joints. I know, it couldn't happen, but imagine the purity of signal if electricity could flow in one pair of wires directly from the wall socket to the transformer. Wow.
Mike Reed
pfm Member
I'm a bit thick sometimes but are sarcastically referring to captive mains leads which, esp. in cheap stuff, still happens. Captive leads, if substantial enough, have to be theoretically better than a plug and socket (IEC) but those tweakers which like to try different leads would feel cheated.
Mike Reed
pfm Member
Depends upon what you call 'messing about'. I see no problem in discussing the merits and demerits of ways of getting leccy to one's kit, assuming it's safe, and there are many different ways which people employ to do this, though they all fall into the two categories of radial or ring circuits apart from batteries.
I am of course referring to the fact that a captive lead of the right gauge is a better electrical solution than any plug and socket arrangement. The only reason for using a plug and socket (eg IEC - International Electrical Connector, there's a clue in the name) is to be able to sell the same equipment across different markets and just toss in a different flavour of kettle lead once you know where that batch is going.
davidsrsb
pfm Member
Remember when the equipment used to come with a fixed power cable with bare wire ends, fit the plug yourself.
This is not allowed these days.
les24preludes
pfm Member
Changing mains cables comes below everything else in my system except for closing the curtains. I once made up a high-tech mains cable from braided thick silver coated copper in teflon outer and couldn't hear any difference. Anything like swapping capacitors and tubes or even interconnects comes way ahead of mains cables in terms of audible difference.
You should, then be aware that an RCCB doesn't provide protection against over current ie. A live to neutral fault. So in the case of a short within one of your transformers Boom the transformer and cable will likely be vaporised. Cables do need to be protected, always.
Lol, you don't get it.
I do. I remember when I was a student there was an American girl who came over and bought a kettle or a coffee machine or some such. She got home and sat in the common room we had, opened the box and said "What the hell?" I looked across and said "Oh, did you buy a plug for it too?" "No of course I didn't buy a goddam plug, don't they come with them? What kind of country sells a kettle that you have to finish off manufacturing?" She did have a point. I was able to find a stray lamp or something and steal the plug and a 13A fuse, and then she had a lesson in how to wire a UK plug. Which of course everybody over about 14 knew back then, unless they had just arrived from a foreign country with a different plug arrangement.
As far as boutique mains cables go, there was a chap on here selling something as thick as a hosepipe and offering free samples. No ties, just free samples. Go on then, I said, I'll try one. Do you want it back if I don't like it? No he didn't. So it arrived and I used it, it made no difference whatsoever beyong being enormously heavy, so I chucked it in a corner. A couple of years later i got around to selling it, I sold it on here within an hour for a decent sum of money. A CD player, working, for less than half as much and delivered with its own IEC cable, didn't sell. I just don't understand hifi types at all.
I'm afraid you appear to be doing just that.
