HELP! Trying to prevent a travesty over my friend dying allegedly intestate

[Bob McC]

Tony
Your will is a legal document as long as it has been signed and witnessed by non beneficiaries.
My advice would be to get it read by a solicitor to ensure you haven’t made any of the obvious errors people make.

Things like leaving £X to named grand children and not adding any further grandkids before you pop your clogs. Just saying I leave £X to each of my grandchildren avoids that.

Registering it is not required.
Loads of charities will do a free simple will through a solicitor if you leave them a bequest.
Eg.https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/ge...BP55Jty9oWWKVLdEouRoCrqUQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Darth Vader]

No, I just researched what they looked like and typed one out. Remember I have, until very recently, been in *total* lockdown for well over a year. That is no visits from family, no visits from friends, no going out other than for solo cycling, just very carefully opening the door for food deliveries. I certainly wasn’t going to visit a bloody lawyer at the height of a pandemic that targets diabetics and asthmatics!

I’d now be prepared to get it formalised if I knew the exact process, which is why I asked the question. Basically I just want to get what I have done registered or whatever is required. I don’t want anything beyond that.

Look up your local solicitors who specialise in this area. Then book an appointment with one after agreeing a price. There is more to a will than just writing words the words have to say the correct thing. Also choose your executors wisely. They can be family but I chose to use our solicitors to do the work as it saves the beneficiaries a lot of work and if in dispute a lot of hassle. Its not expensive for the peace of mind.

Cheers,

DV

 

[Tony L]

Things like leaving £X to named grand children and not adding any further grandkids before you pop your clogs. Just saying I leave £X to each of my grandchildren avoids that.

There is no family. My dad has more than enough money for what he needs so he’s not in it (he is just a witness/signatory). Basically it just splits my assets and savings between friends and charities, preserves pfm by handing it to whatever the current mod team at that time, plus places some financial assets to that end. It is probably adequate as-is, but I’ll likely nail it down a bit better.

 

[Bob McC]

Actually that isn’t a simple will!
Take advice.

 

[robs]

Those mods better know what they are in for !!!!

 

[miktec]

Correlation - things happen together. Causation - things happen as a consequence.

Every day, substantial numbers of people will die after eating cucumber, that does not mean that any death was caused by eating cucumber.

Reductionist nonsense !!!

 

[Bob McC]

Oh dear

 

[miktec]

I’d now be prepared to get it formalised if I knew the exact process, which is why I asked the question. Basically I just want to get what I have done registered or whatever is required. I don’t want anything beyond that.

We drew up a will some time back off our own bat, based on what we could glean online ... total waste of time

More recently, we took advantage of a charity deal which meant we got one professionally done by a local firm of solicitors.
Totally different ballgame than anything we imagined - the wording is so precise and the legal advice about what can and what can't absolutely crucial.
We were provided with a copy but the actual legally binding document is lodged with them ...

 

[Eyebroughty]

As above, home made wills are there to be taken apart in a court.

 

[Vinny]

Reductionist nonsense !!!

Really?

A very strange reaction to an extremely commonly quoted aphorism amongst statisticians. The general idea being that it discourages anyone from jumping to conclusions. Not sticking by that was the major contributor to the MMR debacle.

 

[doctorf]

Look up your local solicitors who specialise in this area. Then book an appointment with one after agreeing a price. There is more to a will than just writing words the words have to say the correct thing. Also choose your executors wisely. They can be family but I chose to use our solicitors to do the work as it saves the beneficiaries a lot of work and if in dispute a lot of hassle. Its not expensive for the peace of mind.

Cheers,

DV

My understanding is that solicitors fees can be horrendous if they are executors of a will.

 

[Vinny]

My understanding is that solicitors fees can be horrendous if they are executors of a will.

No need in the vast majority of cases - my brother handled things when my parents died, a friend did likewise for her parents. Not at all difficult and loads of guides online, although both instances mentioned were before widespread knowledge of the www.

 

[paulfromcamden]

FWIW I've just been back on the phone and it was confirmed in autopsy that he died from blood clots after the Astrezenaca jab.

Sorry to hear that Jez. My condolences.

 

[miktec]

Really?

A very strange reaction to an extremely commonly quoted aphorism amongst statisticians. The general idea being that it discourages anyone from jumping to conclusions. Not sticking by that was the major contributor to the MMR debacle.

Really?
You seem to have a habit of repeating the term 'correlation' when you actually mean coincidence.

The MMR scandal was a deliberate act of fraud by a malfeasant doctor using falsified data - there are absolutely no parallels to be drawn between that and the very real incidences of fatalities that have arisen shortly after receiving AZ vaccinations.
Whilst these incidences may be coincidental (and not 'correlative' per se) they are fortunately being taken very seriously, given that some preventative steps can be taken that might prevent further fatalities.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/a...very-rare-cases-unusual-blood-clots-low-blood
... and:
https://www.sps.nhs.uk/articles/covid-19-vaccination-and-blood-clotting/

"Risk of blood clots with COVID-19 vaccination

Public Health England (PHE) has highlighted reports of a very rare condition involving blood clots and unusual bleeding after vaccination. The risk appears to be higher in people who have had the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine, is seen slightly more often in younger people, and tends to occur between 4 days and 4 weeks following vaccination. This is being actively monitored for all COVID-19 vaccines.

The AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine information for healthcare professionals has been updated to reflect special warnings, precautions and contraindications related to thrombocytopenia and coagulation disorders."

 

[Vinny]

You seem to have a habit of repeating the term 'correlation' when you actually mean coincidence.

Well thank you very much for telling me what I think and know, much obliged.

A great shame that you know and understand so very, very, very little, not even the meaning of some very simple English words. Even your maths are out - 2 + 2 does not equal 34274.

Thanks all the same.

 

[Bob McC]

My understanding is that solicitors fees can be horrendous if they are executors of a will.

they are, and if the estate is simple ie property and a bit of money to be distributed with no complications there is absolutely no need to use solicitors.
I have been executor for three relatively simple estates.
I will also be joint executor for a family member in future along with her solicitor.
I will be quite happy to let them do the work though because in her case it is complicated, involving trusts and stuff and it’s in Scotland where the laws are quite different.

 

[dweezil]

A great shame that you know and understand so very, very, very little, not even the meaning of some very simple English words.

Thanks all the same.

It's the "post hoc ergo propter hoc" fallacy again.

Gives rise to some interesting counter intuitive realities.

It would be strange if there weren't any deaths apparently related to vaccinations now so many have been treated.

The hard part is teasing out a causal relationship when past stats haven't necessarily been collated with that in mind.

 

[Darth Vader]

My understanding is that solicitors fees can be horrendous if they are executors of a will.

You are provided with documentation of their costs and its up to you whether you take it or not. It also depends somewhat on the size
and complexity of your estate. As ever you pay your money and take your choice.

Cheers,

DV

 

[Vinny]

The hard part is teasing out a causal relationship when past stats haven't necessarily been collated with that in mind.

Indeed so. To the point that at the individual case level, at almost invisible levels of occurance, it is essentially impossible.

 

[MikeMA]

No, I just researched what they looked like and typed one out. Remember I have, until very recently, been in *total* lockdown for well over a year. That is no visits from family, no visits from friends, no going out other than for solo cycling, just very carefully opening the door for food deliveries. I certainly wasn’t going to visit a bloody lawyer at the height of a pandemic that targets diabetics and asthmatics!

I’d now be prepared to get it formalised if I knew the exact process, which is why I asked the question. Basically I just want to get what I have done registered or whatever is required. I don’t want anything beyond that.

I think wills are a case where DIY jobs are best avoided. I wouldn't bother trying to have it "formalised", whatever than means, just get it written and properly witnessed by a solicitor. Leave the original or a copy with the solicitor and make sure you and your executors have copies and know where they all are!

It only cost me and my wife about £300 to have mirror wills written by a reputable local solicitor. It's not just the legal niceties you want to get right. We thought we had a complicated situation which might be problematic, but the solicitor was able to assure us our situation was common and she immediately came up with a form of words which met our needs, and some other very helpful advice on tax issues we hadn't even thought about. The solicitor holds the originals of our wills, and we and our executors all have copies. It was £300 well spent as far as I'm concerned, particularly with the helpful advice we were given.

Sorry I realise this is no help to Arkless, but this whole sorry story just highlights the need for all of us to have proper accessible wills in place.