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Compulsory Retirement!

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thebigfredc

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We were chatting with friends this afternoon and one of them remarked that her dad has been furloughed during the pandemic - he's 85 years old.

I am sure he is good at his job but, with unemployment about to go through the roof, isn't it time for the country to return to a maximum working age so that the younguns have a chance.

Similarly, I know lots of people who have taken early retirement from the NHS only to reappear in the same role the following week.

Ray
 
I sympathise with your view.
I also think anyone working beyond retirement age should be paying NI if they get over the threshold taking state pension and earnings together.
 
thebigfredc said:
We were chatting with friends this afternoon and one of them remarked that her dad has been furloughed during the pandemic - he's 85 years old.

I am sure he is good at his job but, with unemployment about to go through the roof, isn't it time for the country to return to a maximum working age so that the younguns have a chance.

Similarly, I know lots of people who have taken early retirement from the NHS only to reappear in the same role the following week.

Ray
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Double dipping is a thing. Used to be quite common in the police, retire at 48 & work for police service as civilian.

Not something that can really happen in the private sector but I don’t think we can have a compulsory retirement age, probably illegal?
 
thebigfredc said:
We were chatting with friends this afternoon and one of them remarked that her dad has been furloughed during the pandemic - he's 85 years old.

I am sure he is good at his job but, with unemployment about to go through the roof, isn't it time for the country to return to a maximum working age so that the younguns have a chance.

Similarly, I know lots of people who have taken early retirement from the NHS only to reappear in the same role the following week.

Ray
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Depends how much the state is going to pay me....£9k per year is it right now?? Then no way. £20k? Ok then, I'm in.
 
Horses for courses. There are't and should not be blanket rules.

This morning - R4 - a farm producing strawberries in the NE. Work starts at 0430, their best picker was making £350 per DAY. The team leader worked on that farm until late summer, then picked apples in Kent, had a holiday and then picked daffodils in Cornwall before returning for the strawberry harvest.

The farm had got involved in the" pick fruit for Britain" thing at the beginning of the C19 fiasco and had loads of applicants from the UK who wanted one or two or three days per week, no start until late, this week and that week and all that sort of thing.

The farm employs and houses and generally looks after 350 workers, all eastern European.

Same principle.
 
thebigfredc said:
We were chatting with friends this afternoon and one of them remarked that her dad has been furloughed during the pandemic - he's 85 years old.

I am sure he is good at his job but, with unemployment about to go through the roof, isn't it time for the country to return to a maximum working age so that the younguns have a chance.

Similarly, I know lots of people who have taken early retirement from the NHS only to reappear in the same role the following week.

Ray
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The NHS is understaffed, especially since Brexit. The use of agency staff has increased significantly so an ex worker who knows the ropes and will be cheaper than agency will make sense
 
thebigfredc said:
We were chatting with friends this afternoon and one of them remarked that her dad has been furloughed during the pandemic - he's 85 years old.

I am sure he is good at his job but, with unemployment about to go through the roof, isn't it time for the country to return to a maximum working age so that the younguns have a chance.

Similarly, I know lots of people who have taken early retirement from the NHS only to reappear in the same role the following week.

Ray
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No! Anyone should be able to work to support themselves. Its those shirkers that are fit and able but for whatever reason prefer to sponge off the rest of us rather than go to work and earn a living that we should be addressing.

Cheers,

DV
 
ks.234 said:
an ex worker who knows the ropes and will be cheaper than agency will make sense
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That isn't saying much. Anyone with half a brain would go back for whatever they can get (in terms of ££).

The last time that I heard, agency nurses were paid less than NHS nurses anyway.
 
No.

I will retire when I want to retire. However, to do so, I think it only correct I should pay tax and NI until the day I stop.
 
Vinny said:
That isn't saying much. Anyone with half a brain would go back for whatever they can get (in terms of ££).

The last time that I heard, agency nurses were paid less than NHS nurses anyway.
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The average Agency nurse salary is £46,608. This is 29.3% above the national average advertised salary of £36,056.
 
ks.234 said:
The average Agency nurse salary is £46,608. This is 29.3% above the national average advertised salary of £36,056.
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Grades involved? I strongly suspect that that is more than extremely, highly misleading, especially as returnees are not going to be at the low end of grades/salary

Seeker_UK said:
I will retire when I want to retire. However, to do so, I think it only correct I should pay tax and NI until the day I stop.
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You pay tax at the same rate as any other age. NI is supposedly linked to pensions. At retirement age, you cannot accrue more pension rites, except by deferment, so why would you still pay?
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Vinny said:
That isn't saying much. Anyone with half a brain would go back for whatever they can get (in terms of ££).

The last time that I heard, agency nurses were paid less than NHS nurses anyway.
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Not when I worked agency (Specialist Chemotherapy Nurse) - I was on a very good whack.

Also an agency nurse does not have the ongoing stress within the unit. Can pick and choose their shifts... I really enjoyed my brief stint working agency.
 
Big Tabs said:
Not when I worked agency (Specialist Chemotherapy Nurse) - I was on a very good whack.

Also an agency nurse does not have the ongoing stress within the unit. Can pick and choose their shifts... I really enjoyed my brief stint working agency.
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So partly you agree, partly you don't. How was holiday pay and pension provision on contract?
 
I know a G.P. who got fed up with having to run the business side of the health centre she worked at.
So she left and now does locum work, she is a lot happier.
 
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