Mike1965
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Well said.
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Mike Reed
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Plenty of medical instruments DO sound. Let's start with, say, an ultra SOUND machine, shall we? How do they get on?That shows that you don’t understand my point. Medical instruments don’t show it because… they apparently do not sound, a bit unexpected, no?
They have done them.
Can it now. So show the difference.
Not at all. I propose to listen to the best hifi I can. However I don't count imaginary differences. Maybe I should. Imagining things would be great. I imagine that my car is more comfortable than any other car, in the world, ever. Nice. Job done then.
So is your argument scientific, in which case show the science, or faith based, in which case you are with me and my car being the best in the world, ever. Because I've been in it and I think that it is.
Each time anybody uses the ‘miles of cable‘ argument shows that they think that there’re some electrons flowing through the cables from the station to their system that makes it sound which is a bit weird
Interesting.. and what are the measurements that will confirm that paper is better than other materials I wonder?
mikemusic
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Here's some
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Measurements with calibrated microphones. All done.
Beobloke
pfm Member
Of course it isn't!
The speaker drive unit is directly responsible for sending the sound waves through the air to your lug'oles so changes to this will have the biggest impact on anything you hear.
In contrast, a mains cable is responsible for bringing an AC power source into the equipment, which then passes through a fuse, a transformer, a bridge rectifier, some capacitors, a regulator or two, some more capacitors and probably some filtering components, before it even gets within sniffing distance of the music signal.
You seem to continue joking… Measurements of what?
Mike Reed
pfm Member
I was questioning what the sentence meant ('make analogues for electricity'); not any message therein.
Measuring sound, with calibrated mics. You know there's a measurable difference between a PP and a paper driver, and it's measured and recorded. No jokes, just normal science and engineering.
Just to remind that there’s no any music signal at all without ac power (and associated noise) so what is more important for the sq in the end is a question mark..
What does that suppose to mean… Or you‘re telling about just recording the sound of the system? You can do it with iphone these days, look at youtube, millions of systems and all sound different
adamdea
You are not a sound quality evaluation device
I'm not an expert, but it would seem to me that a speaker drive unit is a transducer not a conductor, and that that was probably the most significant distinction between it and a cable. Oh well, that the fact that the power cable doesn't carry a signal at all.
So to recap don't get into an argument with an idiot.
It's in plain enough English, it means that if there are differences between cone materials, and there are, then this can be measured. As you know. With an iPhone if you want, or if you want to do it properly, with a calibrated mic. This is in response to your question about how we can be sure that different cone materials sound different. We can, because the speaker manufacturers have measured it.
What you are telling is that any product development cycle involves a lot of measurements… Man, that’s obvious.. And no different for mains manufacturers, Titan audio for example develops cables with University of Belfast:
Research Report
In a collaboration project in partner with the esteemed Queens University, we sent out to fully investigate the facts surrounding power conditioning and the need for better mains technology to be utilised within HiFi systems.
titanaudio.co.uk
And lots of relevant measurements done as for all the equipment. But it’s human ears (and brains) to ultimately decide in the end whether you recorded your sound with the most precise microphones or not..
That's a mains conditioner, not a cable. It's got active components in it, and it's measured accordingly. Now then, about, say, a Naim Powerline. Measurements?What you are telling is that any product development cycle involves a lot of measurements… Man, that’s obvious.. And no different for mains manufacturers, Titan audio for example develops cables with University of Belfast:
Research Report
In a collaboration project in partner with the esteemed Queens University, we sent out to fully investigate the facts surrounding power conditioning and the need for better mains technology to be utilised within HiFi systems.
And lots of relevant measurements done as for all the equipment. But it’s human ears (and brains) to ultimately decide in the end whether you recorded your sound with the most precise microphones or not..
You’re constantly replacing the ‘measurements’ meaning with ‘recording’. But it’s easy to do - take a video of your system with a set of good cables and without using something like zoom camera and all will be obvious..
