Pravda
Well-Known Member
Well at least, a socialist one
2024 local elections
- Thread starter Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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Cav
pfm Member
Birmingham is run by Gove appointed Commissioners...
Dave H.
Revolutionary relativist
Not saying it’s a bad thing, but it’s quite a big deal.
mattjevans
Well-Known Member
What a shame that would be …
More seriously, yet another leader would just be more damaging for the Tories and I’m of two minds how damaged I want them to be.
On the one hand, an utter decimation and a decade or more in the wilderness so to speak may let the party put itself back together in more of a One Nation mold and rid itself of the Braverman types and their 1980’s skinhead derived “ideas”.
But I worry about the consequences of a two term government with an opposition so weak that the government can’t be held to account. Particularly as there has to be a chance some of the Tory rags go under once their clients vacate the government benches. Vile as they are, maybe a dissenting voice is a healthy thing overall ?
paulfromcamden
Baffled
No, I'm not exactly looking forward to Starmer Labour have zero opposition either.
Problem is there isn't really any opposition now. Just two centre-right parties trading insults at the dispatch box.
mattjevans
Well-Known Member
I just think no government is going to be a good government for very long without a decent opposition. To be honest at the moment I feel that we’d all be better off if the female politicians who do the podcast with Beth Rigby were just put in charge for 2 years with the understanding we’d have an election after that.
I can’t agree that the current Tories are “centre” right. Most of the Cabinet would have been a good fit around the table with Mussolini…
kensalriser
pfm Member
Others have already made the point, but just to underline it - avail yourself of the facts. The reason councils are going bankrupt is because they are being deliberately starved of central funding and it's happening to Tory run councils too. But when it happens to Labour councils, the government shouts about how badly run Labour councils are and people who know no better parrot the propaganda.
kensalriser
pfm Member
Oh, and if you judge people by the company they keep...Michael Fabricant's partner. Good grief.
mhv
pfm Member
Except that any vote for reform is not necessarily a good thing. Equally important statistically the Greens got almost the same vote as reform. More importantly the independent Akhmed Yakoob got twice as many with almost 20%.
Nic Robinson
Moderator
Thank you for that. It seems some people need an easy to understand diagram tbh.
MVV
pfm Member
A small target carrying a Ming vase totters towards power to do what? Why? With nothing, for no one.
Meanwhile a millionaire technocrat demonstrates his skill at loading a dishwasher, grinning at the camera in Adidas Sambas.
Akshata ponders on the Maldives in December, it would be warm and she never did like Turkey.
Meanwhile a millionaire technocrat demonstrates his skill at loading a dishwasher, grinning at the camera in Adidas Sambas.
Akshata ponders on the Maldives in December, it would be warm and she never did like Turkey.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
Yes there is that...
gavreid
Pretty Words...
Classic Tory policy - cut the funds and challenge Labour to make ther cuts on the ground. The Labour right falls into the trap every time and in every council.
Apparently, a very important seat for the Corbynites.
Laura was deliriously happy - probably affected her journalist integrity. I thought the pictures told the story - the very definition of cringe. Mainstream journos can't go too far. If they do, they won't get access. PFM is far better at 'swording' than the MSM. Street is also off - a man who supported Liz Truss.