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He’s an audio engineer too. Must be incompetent.
You know there are plenty of members here as well that believe that too, right? You want to change your sound, how about starting with speakers, room treatment, and DSP before plonking big bucks on cables?
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serendipitydawg
Dag nabbit!
Are you suggesting that anyone who doesn't advocate "magic " cables is a troll ? Are you a member on the Steve Hoffman forum ? I've been on there for nearly 20 years & IMHO it's even more friendly & helpful than here. Tony L (our esteemed host) posts there occasionally.
Tony L
Administrator
The Steve Hoffman forum is great, though I seldom read/post outside the music room. I’m there for the real record and CD mastering and collector detail. I’m surprised if Steve has an anti-cable stance as his main system was real high-end esoterica the last time I looked and I’m sure included a lot of expensive cable. IIRC he had some involvement with Audio Note at some point, though he has certainly got a pair of Monitor Golds somewhere too (as everyone should). I’ll have a look at a cable thread there sometime.
PS FWIW I came to the conclusion that a) yes, cables do make a difference, and b) I really don’t like most of the odd crazy expensive stuff. My choice is for really good quality studio grade copper and plenty of it. Silver, fancy weaves etc all seem to make things sound worse to my ears.
PS FWIW I came to the conclusion that a) yes, cables do make a difference, and b) I really don’t like most of the odd crazy expensive stuff. My choice is for really good quality studio grade copper and plenty of it. Silver, fancy weaves etc all seem to make things sound worse to my ears.
Peter_Tos
pfm Member
Unfortunately, I have a different experience.
One of my cable search topics turned into a real show. I don't want to go into the details of that filthy thread, but there were some extremely aggressive statements and recommendations from Steve about using toilet paper for a tweeter instead of a warm sounding cable. The thread was deleted.
My experience I wasn't expecting to get there.
crimsondonkey
pfm Member
A studio engineer who thinks cables make no difference, I can accept that.
Everyone who has reached a different conclusion to you is consequently a troll - err get over yourself.
Peter_Tos
pfm Member
I have doubts in my mind about the quality of a studio engineer who can't hear how different cables change the sound. This is a very subtle point and one has to have good hearing. That's the criterion. IMHO
crimsondonkey
pfm Member
Ha ha, I’m sure Steve Hoffman is gutted - “Oh no some bloke on the internet thinks he’s got better hearing than me..”.
Based on the evidence of the records he has mastered I’d say at some point he has had very good hearing, and who’s to say it’s deteriorated? Oh yeah, that’ll be you
Tony L
Administrator
FWIW I’ve just had a look at Steve Hoffman’s system details (fully listed in his profile as is the way there) and he has Audio Note UK Sogon LX96 bi-wire cable listed, which as far as I can tell from a quick google is a mere £2900 a metre (HiFiCollective)!
Hi.I have tried registering again several times with no sucess, wondering if I was doing something wrong.
Martyn Miles
pfm Member
I was on HUG when I owned Harbeths and enjoyed it.
Later, after contributing to a discussion on the modern LS3/5As, I was challenged in a PM by Alan Shaw.
The content of the message claimed my input wasn’t accurate.
As it came from the manufacturer of the modern LS3/5As, I knew it was.
Alan Shaw refused to accept it.
I subsequently left HUG, never to return.
serendipitydawg
Dag nabbit!
OP. Just in case, whatever you do, don't ask about cables on Audio Science Review !
Richard Lines
pfm Member
+ VAT!!!
A quick calculation shows I would need around £110k's worth for my system........
Regards
Richard
serendipitydawg
Dag nabbit!
It is well known that Steve Hoffman has a long-standing near permanent loan arrangement with AudioNote (UK)
Martyn Miles
pfm Member
This will turn into ( yet another ) cable thread if we’re not careful.
Re. studio engineers, a good friend was one for many years.
In many of the studios he worked in the cables were Sommer with Neutrik fittings.
Neither were the cables or fittings outrageously priced.
John said the Neutrik fittings were high quality and realistically priced.
The Sommer cable was hard wearing and reeled up easily.
Hazelberry
sister
pfm is the only audio forum I'm a member of. Indeed, it's pretty much the only forum of any kind that I post on now.
I discovered pfm shortly after its inception when I was looking for information about the A&R A60, one of which I'd recently purchased (& is still in use). Although I'm an Antipodean, my hi-fi interests are predominantly British. I joined the forum a few years later & have enjoyed it ever since. I love the community feeling & there's a real depth of knowledge that I appreciate. These things can be found elsewhere of course, but I just prefer the pfm ways.
I discovered pfm shortly after its inception when I was looking for information about the A&R A60, one of which I'd recently purchased (& is still in use). Although I'm an Antipodean, my hi-fi interests are predominantly British. I joined the forum a few years later & have enjoyed it ever since. I love the community feeling & there's a real depth of knowledge that I appreciate. These things can be found elsewhere of course, but I just prefer the pfm ways.
the_bat
pfm Member
Could you point us at the posts where he said that please?
I ask because that's not at all what he said in many of his posts that I've read.
Peter_Tos
pfm Member
As I wrote earlier, this thread has been deleted.
Perhaps there are those who remember my thread on SHForum about finding a cable with a warm sound and an accentuated lower midrange.
My account there was also blocked because I expressed my frustration with Steve because of his comments in that thread.