The Bish
pfm Member
Ethereal, yeah that’s what I’m after, at least for some music. Will try a bit of speaker placement fun this weekend.
Which component has the most effect on 'holographic' sound
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Ethereal, yeah that’s what I’m after, at least for some music. Will try a bit of speaker placement fun this weekend.
Hazelberry
sister
The combo of my Philips CD850ii plus A60 plus LS3/5as is astounding as each has great imaging. Having returned to the A60 I get excellent soundstaging from mid field as opposed to the Yamaha amplifier which demands very near field listening or a higher volume for a good result. And this is with the speakers 8-10” from the wall. (I do have a small room though, about 2.5m across.)
Hazelberry
sister
a.palfreyman
pfm Member
I assume LSD refers to Lowest Signal Distortion.
rbrown
I think therefore I think I am
Good call. This isn’t quite on topic but the tightest, deepest and most tuneful bass I’ve ever heard came from a £20 ghetto blaster while on LSD.
miktec
retired
Don’t forget the “deep” button!
A pity not all components have these controls…
I had an all-in-one cassette player yonks ago, speaker at each end jobby.
It had the 'wide' button ... weirdly, it worked - and the effect was quite spectacular and probably the best stereo effect I've ever experienced (without LSD)
Hazelberry
sister
Oh I remember those now! I wasn’t enamoured much as it made for a too phasey effect.
My best experience was in the late stage of a mighty cactus trip. I didn’t want it to end! The clarity was astonishing. OTOH the trip at its peak was far too much for musical enjoyment.
Alex S
carbon based lifeform
The tightest, deepest and most tuneful bass I’ve ever heard was also on LSD. I was on Waterloo bridge at 4 in the morning. My Walkman was somewhere in the Thames.
Gomers1607
pfm Member
Agree but it must surely be mostly the recording, it’s a studio effect that is added as part of the production. I love a 3D image but it’s hardly what you’d call a reproduction of the live experience. For me, it’s HiFi’s biggest WOW moment.
karlsushi
pfm Member
I've never worked out whether stereo imaging is a realistic phenomenon or just a clever production trick. My instinct is that there are examples of both.
There are some cracking 1950's and 60's jazz recordings where you can really place the players. Surely this was too early for the kinds of techniques that can be used with computing now.
In relation to the latter, there's great fun to be had with a set of headphones and the various 8d tracks you can pick up off YouTube or Apple's Spatial Audio. Most definitely a production technique in those instances.
There are some cracking 1950's and 60's jazz recordings where you can really place the players. Surely this was too early for the kinds of techniques that can be used with computing now.
In relation to the latter, there's great fun to be had with a set of headphones and the various 8d tracks you can pick up off YouTube or Apple's Spatial Audio. Most definitely a production technique in those instances.
The most holographic sound I’ve ever heard was when I was 16,a old amstrad system of my mum and dad’s with a traded copy of assault and battery by Hawkwind off live chronicles,the sound absolutely filled the room,depth,width everything,they were actually in the room,2 double dipped purple ohms was all it took,far cheaper than even a new Ethernet switch.
God only knows why I’ve been chasing the same illusion for 32 years spending a small fortune every now and again,just stick to LSD!
God only knows why I’ve been chasing the same illusion for 32 years spending a small fortune every now and again,just stick to LSD!
boon
pfm Member
Most of the above answers are true, I think. Decent speakers, well placed in the room is the key point, I think.
What I find interesting is that 'holographic' sound staging is very easy to assess subjectively, it's easy to hear and easy to understand. Bigger is better. Even completely novices/layman's get it if you demonstrate it to them. As opposed to some other subjects devoted by us audiophiles...
What I find interesting is that 'holographic' sound staging is very easy to assess subjectively, it's easy to hear and easy to understand. Bigger is better. Even completely novices/layman's get it if you demonstrate it to them. As opposed to some other subjects devoted by us audiophiles...
It's mostly the latter. Loudspeakers can be much more directional than the instruments they are reproducing.
Yes, but the question is about which parts of the chain are responsible for reproducing it. Sure, in production they can do things which result in very strong image placement but you still need to configure your stereo to reproduce the effect. And the system can accentuate the effect even on recordings where imagery was not given precedence.
For example?