paulfromcamden
Baffled
My guess is it will also depend on the condition of the tape, which will of course be largely dependent on tape stock used and storage conditions for the past 50+ years. It sounds like the BN tapes are all in great condition.
Mobile Fidelity, ‘One Step’ etc
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My guess is it will also depend on the condition of the tape, which will of course be largely dependent on tape stock used and storage conditions for the past 50+ years. It sounds like the BN tapes are all in great condition.
allthingsanalog
pfm Member
I’m surprised suspicions weren’t aroused when when Marc Cohn came out which was recorded using a digital Studer Dyaxis comprising of an Apple Mac and hard drive storage when first recorded in 1991.
The MOFI states mastered from the 'stereo tape' doesn’t say anything about analogue. Presumably the files were then transferred to some sort of digital tape format form the hard drive.
I’ve also noticed that Dire Straits Making Movies is only the master tape for side two and a copy for side one so presumably not technically a OMR but a MFSL??
The MOFI states mastered from the 'stereo tape' doesn’t say anything about analogue. Presumably the files were then transferred to some sort of digital tape format form the hard drive.
I’ve also noticed that Dire Straits Making Movies is only the master tape for side two and a copy for side one so presumably not technically a OMR but a MFSL??
tpetsch
...The rhythm has Control
There is no way that I can be convinced that Fremer's "opinions" are not somewhat motivated by the Comps he receives..
sideshowbob
Champagne fascia aficionado
Interview with Jim Davis of Mofi. He gives entirely plausible technical explanations, but he isn't asked the key question: "Why didn't you mention any of this before?"
https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/mofi-president-jim-davis-on-the-companys-mastering-process
https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/mofi-president-jim-davis-on-the-companys-mastering-process
Graham H
pfm Member
To be fair I think Fremer has had his doubts about some MoFi releases, but that doesn't excuse him for keeping quiet. He keeps using the phrase journalistic professionalism and I'm really not sure what he means by that in this context.
My main interest in the entire affair is how it will - positively? - affect the industry in the future. 'From the original master tapes' really doesn't mean very much. One could argue a grey import LP mastered from CD is from the original master tapes, as they must have been used at some point in the long lineage of its creation, or else the recording wouldn't exist. IMO any litigation should be aimed at clarification of process, not Mobile Fidelity's obfuscation.
OTOH if it sounds good then it sounds good, after all Fremer apparently gave Santana Abraxas One Step 11/10.
Paul R
pfm Member
I think he means that he doesn't want to publish (and therefore add weight to) unsubstantiated rumour. He queried MoFi (which is the responsible journalistic act) who promised a statement that never came, and then events. This is in the context of the Thriller issue which was obviously going to need a digital step given the numbers promised which seems to have triggered the whole debacle.
I don't think Fremer is the problem here.
And obviously in the context of producing vinyl, a digital step, even a mid-80s digital step, is neither here nor there. Townhouse (going from memory here unfortunately...) cut many excellent records using a digital delay rather than an extended tape path. A big dose of affectation and more money than sense.
I don't think Fremer is the problem here.
And obviously in the context of producing vinyl, a digital step, even a mid-80s digital step, is neither here nor there. Townhouse (going from memory here unfortunately...) cut many excellent records using a digital delay rather than an extended tape path. A big dose of affectation and more money than sense.
ToTo Man
the band not the dog
The J.D. interview helps to fill in a lot of the blanks regarding the actual mastering process, which is great to finally have clarification on, but like you I do find it extremely odd that the interviewer didn't even touch on the issue of honesty/accountability...
paulfromcamden
Baffled
Lots of mentions of their custom Tim de Paravicini analog gear but no mention of what converters they use. Doesn't really matter, I'm just curious as they seem to be taking a lot of trouble over the rest of the equipment.
sideshowbob
Champagne fascia aficionado
Oh, I have no doubt about that at all...
Graham H
pfm Member
gavreid
Pretty Words...
Good studio converters are much of a muchness these days, the money is in the channel count and the connectivity. These have been popular:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/de...o-interface-with-16-channel-d-a-pro-tools-hdx
paulfromcamden
Baffled
Certainly it's diminishing returns. But I wonder. I've heard plenty of mastering engineers say the biggest upgrade they've made to their signal chain is investing in better converters. And presumably Mo-Fi would be using two channel mastering converters?
Like I say, just curious ;-)
gavreid
Pretty Words...
Yes I agree people sank an arm and leg into studio converters but technology overtook them all pretty quickly. RME built the 2 channel fs range, for example, originally for higher quality monitoring.
ToTo Man
the band not the dog
I love Chad's 'speak with no filter' style, it's very refreshing! (see e.g. @41:00
).
daytona600
Registered User
davidavdavid
davidavdavid
I have been covering The MoFi Predicament https://www.dagogo.com/the-mofi-predicament/ over at Dagogo.com. My commentary piece along with the information updates in the comments section should provide a workable overview for the uninitiated and a heads-up on subsequent events for those more closely following.
Yes, indeed the Class Ac6ion certification paperwork was filed with the Federal Court on August 2nd, 2022. In order for this matter to proceed the certification must be granted. In the later comments, I have written not only about the thrust of the suit but provided links to the legal code and a primer on class actions.
For those across the pond who may not be aware, Impex has jumped on the transparency bandwagon informing the public, subsequently updating their website, to include "digital" in the features for their most recent Saturday Night in San Francisco offering
FYI, Prices in the States are dropping. For example, the Carole King Tapestry One=Step officially retails for $125.00 can be had on the secondary market (eBay) for $89.98 + shipping. This is for a SEALED NEW album/box not something pre-owned. Interesting times indeed.
Yes, indeed the Class Ac6ion certification paperwork was filed with the Federal Court on August 2nd, 2022. In order for this matter to proceed the certification must be granted. In the later comments, I have written not only about the thrust of the suit but provided links to the legal code and a primer on class actions.
For those across the pond who may not be aware, Impex has jumped on the transparency bandwagon informing the public, subsequently updating their website, to include "digital" in the features for their most recent Saturday Night in San Francisco offering
FYI, Prices in the States are dropping. For example, the Carole King Tapestry One=Step officially retails for $125.00 can be had on the secondary market (eBay) for $89.98 + shipping. This is for a SEALED NEW album/box not something pre-owned. Interesting times indeed.