Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
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Highway Code Changes
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Cav
pfm Member
I passed my test in 1971 and my driving instructor said that to me every lesson.
gintonic
50 shades of grey pussy cats
which they already do round here
awkwardbydesign
Officially Awesome
As someone has already pointed out, cars turning left may well have to stop for other reasons, such as another car in front of them in the side road, a parked car on the opposite side of the side road making an oncoming car move out to pass it, and so on. A lot of frothing about nothing, just clickbait. Besides, cars stop for all sorts of reasons anywhere, so traffic behind should be able, and ready, to stop safely anyway.
As for the nonsense about who should move first*, it's the pedestrian, then the car turning left, then the car turning right. Nothing to see here, move along.
* Has he never been at a mini roundabout with everyone indicating right? Figure it out and stop whingeing.
awkwardbydesign
Officially Awesome
Not in Smith's yesterday, and don't know when they will available.
Seeker_UK
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans
Brian
Eating fat, staying slim
Nothing to see for the pedestrians that are going to be squashed.As someone has already pointed out, cars turning left may well have to stop for other reasons, such as another car in front of them in the side road, a parked car on the opposite side of the side road making an oncoming car move out to pass it, and so on. A lot of frothing about nothing, just clickbait. Besides, cars stop for all sorts of reasons anywhere, so traffic behind should be able, and ready, to stop safely anyway.
As for the nonsense about who should move first*, it's the pedestrian, then the car turning left, then the car turning right. Nothing to see here, move along.
* Has he never been at a mini roundabout with everyone indicating right? Figure it out and stop whingeing.
People are as entitled to question the value and even safety of these changes as others are to believe they are good. These are the worst changes I’ve seen to the highway code since I passed my test in 1977 and it’s not whinging to say so. I care a lot about road safety, I see no benefit at all to the specific change referred to of a pedestrian waiting to cross at a junction. I certainly won’t be crossing with my dog at a junction when a vehicle is approaching to turn into my street.
Tony L
Administrator
I don’t agree. I suspect these changes will be very good legally for any pedestrian or cyclist injured by a motor vehicle driver. The current system placed far too much nuance on situations, witnesses etc, and it could be a real PITA getting compensation for injuries and damages. Now it is a lot clearer, pretty much to the extent that if a vehicle hits you they are liable and I assume can be sued.
Brian
Eating fat, staying slim
I’m a pedestrian, a cyclist and a motorist.
Let’s see how many more accidents occur at junctions. As I say, as a pedestrian I won’t be budging while a vehicle is approaching the junction. Let’s hope pedestrians don’t take to simply walking across a road as if it’s not even a road, eh.
Your idea of clarity being great legally isn’t going to help a squashed pedestrian a lot.
Bob McC
Living the life of Riley
When I am a pedestrian I never cross at a junction where there are no traffic lights. I always move down the road a bit. Then I only need watch out for two directions and not worry about anticipating anything else arriving round the corner.
And on the subject of traffic lights do these new rules apply at junctions controlled by traffic lights?
If so that is crazy.
And on the subject of traffic lights do these new rules apply at junctions controlled by traffic lights?
If so that is crazy.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
If we are to encourage people to walk and cycle more, if we are to give people fewer reasons to take the car, then these small steps are, I think, small steps in the right direction. Prepare for larger steps in future.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
Accuphase all the way down
As a pedestrian, I'm limited in the size of steps I can prepare for. Short legs, you see.
Stuart Frazer
pfm Member
I agree with this. We have to start somewhere to change the mentality of those who can cause the most damage.
Intelligent Speed Assistance is also coming this year for all new models only, which is another step in the right direction.
Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) is also coming for new vehchles in mid 2022.
Both of the above should have been introduced years ago.
And whilst we're at it, I would love to see the use of a mobile phone behind the wheel receive a mandatory 3 month driving ban, together with 6 points and £200 fine or a week of the offenders earnings, whichever is greater.
Brian
Eating fat, staying slim
I would actually crush the car of people caught using a mobile phone while driving, just so people don’t get the mistaken idea my concerns are based on over protection of the motorist. I believe this particular change is going to result in people being killed and for no benefit.
Tony Lockhart
Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity
I just don’t see how, and I really don’t think you’re looking forward far enough. We need a change of culture, and this is the first part.
Bob McC
Living the life of Riley
Cav
pfm Member
I doubt children know what the Highway Code is let alone read it. I doubt many adults do and even fewer drivers. What do you do at the moment - run them down?