Oh Britain, what have you done (part ∞+22)?

[stevec67]

The stats showing a rise in hate crime have no connection with any actual rise in hate crime.

Bull.

 

[stevec67]

A Polish ski regiment was based in a bonded warehouse near where my grandmother lived during WW2. I shall head over there tomorrow and if I see any nonagenarians in white, with sub machine guns, carrying large wooden skis over their shoulder, I’ll impart the good news.

What, that you've got them 3 months brickying at the housing estate round the corner?

 

[eternumviti]

Bull.

Really?

 

[Brian]

You support their flagship policy.

Do I?

Utter cod, the question wasn't personal you just dodged it as usual. It was simply will you be supporting Labour if they come out for Remain? Most of the 'snide' you complain about, you deliver in spades. The difference being others don't whine about it.

Not cod at all.

I didn’t notice the question. What was/is the post number and I will take a look?

Also, give me an example of where I made a snide remark. I’m interested in what you consider to be snide. By the way, I’m not complaining about this at all, just highlighting how it is. I haven’t complained about, or reported a single post.

 

[Colin Barron]

There is a rise of hate crime all over the country and even in London, so often touted as the Remain utopia of the UK. I did some work with a company who, among other things, compile crime stats for London and the rise in hate crime is quite signifiant since 2016. Of course according to every level headed leaver (an oxymoron in itself in my opinion) this has nothing to do with Brexit and is just purely coincidental, but then again according to them we're going to be fine when we crash out of the EU so I suspect their ability to form an opinion is not exactly rooted in reality or logic.

Hate crime is up but how do you link this with Brexit. From the hate crime figures for 2017/18 all types of hate crime were up.
Hate crime strand 2011/12 2012/13 2013/14 2014/15 2015/16 2016/17 2017/18 % change 2016/17 to 2017/18

Race 35,944 35,845 37,575 42,862 49,419 62,685 71,251 14
Religion 1,618 1,572 2,264 3,293 4,400 5,949 8,336 40
Sexual orientation 4,345 4,241 4,588 5,591 7,194 9,157 11,638 27
Disability 1,748 1,911 2,020 2,515 3,629 5,558 7,226 30
Transgender 313 364 559 607 858 1,248 1,651 32

Total number of motivating factors 43,968 43,933 47,006 54,868 65,500 84,597 100,102 18

Total number of offences N/A 42,255 44,577 52,465 62,518 80,393 94,098 17
I did try to alter spacing but it did not work; the final column is percentage increase.

 

[stevec67]

Really?

Yes, really and obviously. When some scum says to a woman in a bookie's "When we have brexit you're leaving you f**ing n*-word" how can anyone with a brain cell imagine otherwise? It's not as if this is the only time such a thing has been said post 2016.

What is apparent is that there was an undercurrent of racism in the country and it was being kept under wraps because people didn't feel able to express their racist views. Post Brexit vote people did then feel empowered, I'm sure that a lot of people thought "about time too, 52% of people feel the same as I do" and then felt able to express it. Which they are now doing. As has been said here many times, not everyone who voted Leave is a racist but it's damn sure every racist voted Leave.

 

[SteveS1]

Do I?


Not cod at all.

I didn’t notice the question. What was/is the post number and I will take a look?

Also, give me an example of where I made a snide remark. I’m interested in what you consider to be snide. By the way, I’m not complaining about this at all, just highlighting how it is. I haven’t complained about, or reported a single post.

Post 1335. Last sentence, not exactly hidden is it?

Nice line that last one, so you wouldn't complain about anything, just highlight it. I see now.

 

[ff1d1l]

Also, give me an example of where I made a snide remark. I’m interested in what you consider to be snide. By the way, I’m not complaining about this at all, just highlighting how it is. I haven’t complained about, or reported a single post.

Snide segueing seamlessly into sententious.

Nice!

 

[jackbarron]

The stats showing a rise in hate crime have no connection with any actual rise in hate crime.

Try telling my friend Laurence this. She is French and has lived in London for 30 years. This is what happened to her the other day:

"For politely asking a middle aged man to make space reducing his over enthusiastic legs spread and moving his bag so I could sit on the last available seat in the dlr carriage I was called a twat, then a knob a few minutes later, before culminating with a triumphant 'foreign scum' as he cowardly got off. Brexit Britain anyone?… "

There are a lot of racists and nationalists in England and, if they voted in the Referendum, they voted to Leave. Fact.

Jack

 

[Stunsworth]

Really?

Yes, you support Brexit.

 

[SteveS1]

The only questions I don’t answer are those of a personal nature that are none of your business. This is quite fair.

Perhaps you could point to where questions of you have been "of a personal nature". The only question I've seen is where you have pretended that you might have voted Remain, while consistently opining about how awful Remainers are.

It's nothing like a personal question, just a mechanism for you to play a disingenuous 'both ends against the middle' position in this discussion. Which some may see as trolling.

 

[Joe]

Hate crime is up but how do you link this with Brexit. From the hate crime figures for 2017/18 all types of hate crime were up.
Hate crime strand 2011/12 2012/13 2013/14 2014/15 2015/16 2016/17 2017/18 % change 2016/17 to 2017/18

Race 35,944 35,845 37,575 42,862 49,419 62,685 71,251 14
Religion 1,618 1,572 2,264 3,293 4,400 5,949 8,336 40
Sexual orientation 4,345 4,241 4,588 5,591 7,194 9,157 11,638 27
Disability 1,748 1,911 2,020 2,515 3,629 5,558 7,226 30
Transgender 313 364 559 607 858 1,248 1,651 32

Total number of motivating factors 43,968 43,933 47,006 54,868 65,500 84,597 100,102 18

Total number of offences N/A 42,255 44,577 52,465 62,518 80,393 94,098 17
I did try to alter spacing but it did not work; the final column is percentage increase.

Is all the hate crime* 'white on others' or don't the figures differentiate ?

* ( very 1984 )

 

[stephen bennett]

I see that the contenders for Conservative party leadership are laying out their stalls to turn the UK into a low-tax, money laundering economy.

Both are keen on privatising the health and education services.

It's win-win for the right. The 2008 crash allowed them to contract the state and Brexit will finish the process of privatisation started by Thatcher in ways she would never have dared.

And this time, we (as in the voters of the UK) have voted for it. Indeed, some are apparently clamouring for it.

Stephen

 

[Tony L]

Rees-Mogg’s Brexit Company sister, the one with the random Scrabble hand name, is on Sky at present. She is quite staggeringly dumb.

 

[Colin Barron]

Is all the hate crime* 'white on others' or don't the figures differentiate ?

* ( very 1984 )

The figures were 'hate crime in England' no other breakdown. Each recorded type of hate crime was up, but race was the smallest increase at 14%, which is not what is being suggested. It could of be that it is not being reported.

 

[Colin Barron]

I see that the contenders for Conservative party leadership are laying out their stalls to turn the UK into a low-tax, money laundering economy.

Both are keen on privatising the health and education services.

It's win-win for the right. The 2008 crash allowed them to contract the state and Brexit will finish the process of privatisation started by Thatcher in ways she would never have dared.

And this time, we (as in the voters of the UK) have voted for it. Indeed, some are apparently clamouring for it.

Stephen

Low corporation tax is a good negotiating strategy, with the south of Ireland pulling in 25% of GDP money laundering economy, it will help to focus minds.

 

[stephen bennett]

Low corporation tax is a good negotiating strategy, with the south of Ireland pulling in 25% of GDP money laundering economy, it will help to focus minds.

As I said, some of us are apparently happy with the direction Johnson/Hunt/Farage will be taking the UK.

Low tax, low wage, small state.

Stephen

 

[TheDecameron]

Low corporation tax is a good negotiating strategy, with the south of Ireland pulling in 25% of GDP money laundering economy, it will help to focus minds.

Could you explain what this sentence means? The “ pulling in 25% of GDP money laundering economy”?

 

[stevec67]

Rees-Mogg’s Brexit Company sister, the one with the random Scrabble hand name, is on Sky at present. She is quite staggeringly dumb.

Oh, that whatsername Anacephalia Sinintelligentsia Rees Mogg isn't it? You're right, she's about as smart as my mate's labrador.

 

[Brian]

Post 1335. Last sentence, not exactly hidden is it?

Nice line that last one, so you wouldn't complain about anything, just highlight it. I see now.

No, I don’t complain or report anything. Do you?

Your post 1335 and my reply is below.

Voting for anyone other than Labour. But you are the master of disguise Brian, no doubt you have some revised interpretation like your supposed ambiguity over voting Brexit. Having done little else except making a case for it for three years. Including some convoluted tale about asking your children who surprised you by not being remainers, or some such yada.

Will you be suppporting Labour should they campaign to Remain?

I did miss it. That was because I switched off at your second sentence.

The answer to your question is I believe in Labour party values and that will not change if Labour campaigns for remain or leave. What did you expect the answer to be?

What I support is preventing a tory govt.