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What are your favourite stereo recordings of the Brahms Symphonies?

albireo

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The two piano concertos by Brahms have always had a special importance for me. The same is true for almost all of his chamber music output.

Until recently I had not, however, approached his Symphonies, for some reason. I have now discovered them and I am in awe. I am especially struck by his 4th Symphony, which hits me at a very deep, emotional level. Only Shostakovich string quartets (which I own in the Fitzwilliam Quartet cycle on Decca) had managed to do the same.

My esploration of these works is still at a very superficial level. I have gone on a buying spree and now own the following interpretations:

-Sanderling, Dresden
-Karajan, BPO, late 70s cycle
-Bruno Walter [3/4 Symphonies only] CSO
-Kleiber 4th
-Gardiner's 4th.

They are all fascinating interpretations, and I tend to prefer Walter (for the energy and precision) and Sanderling (for the beautiful ambience and the sweeping romanticism) so far, though Gardiner is also quite interesting (it sounds lean, and fast, which is fine in some movements of the 4th). For some reason, I cannot warm up to the Kleiber, which came highly recommended by a friend. The Karajan is last in my preferences at the moment.

I was curious to know what are your favourite interpretations of these works?

Also, I would particularly value your recommendations for other stereo recordings of the Symphonies, whether full cycles or single Symphonies. I specify stereo because, as much as I am tempted to explore old recordings by Furtwaengler, Toscanini, etc., I am currently forced to doing most of my listening on headphones and I cannot stand mono sound through headphones.

So yes, if you could forget anything before 1955 (or whenever was stereo introduced in orchestral recordings) what would your selection be?
 
I have tried a few but always seem to come back to these 1996 Gunter Wand live recordings, sound quality not the best and for some reason the price has gone through the roof. Yikes!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B006BB8JP0/?tag=pinkfishmedia-21

SCO are doing them this season and I must say that so far (first two) they are doing a very good job under Robin Ticciati, hopefully Linn will issue some recordings later.

High price in link? It seems to be a Japanese SACD version of my box, sorry. There is a £27 European CD box at Amazon as well, not sure if they are the same performances though.
 
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I have shelves groaning under weight of Brahms Symphonies.
My Favourites are:
1st - Boult & LPO on EMI/Warner. Norrington/LCPO on EMI. Thielemann/Munich Phil on DG.
2nd - Chailly/Leipzig Gewandhaus on Decca. Abbado/BPO on DG
3rd - Abbado/BPO on DG, Chailly/Leipzig on Decca
4th - JE Gardiner/ORR on DSG, Kleiber/VPO on DG, Simone Young/Hamburg Phil on Oehms

There are lots of great recordings of these symphonies so every opinion can be catered for.

In my view, the Carlos Kleiber Brahms 4th with the VPO is one of the greatest classical recordings ever made. As a recording it is less than perfect - early digital slight metallic sheen to the sound. But the performance is completely unarguable from first to last.
 
Not forgetting the Klemperer Philharmonia set on EMI.
I really like Jochum and the LPO on EMI for the 1st as well - it sounds great on Vinyl. It's totally different from Klemperer.
I agree about Karajan, I dislike his performances.
 
You could try CM Giulini. I like his Brahms 1 with the LA Philharmonic a lot, and his recording with the VPO is supposed to be very good, too. He was something of a specialist of Brahms symphonies so there are many versions about.
 
I bought the four symphonies by Bruno Walter on vinyl many years ago and have never heard better. I'm never sure though whether one just becomes so familiar with one version that all others seem wrong somehow?

You say you are fond of the piano concertos well, if you haven't already heard them, try listening to Emil Gilels version. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
 
In my view, the Carlos Kleiber Brahms 4th with the VPO is one of the greatest classical recordings ever made.

Agreed. Bought it in 1984 and still one of my most treasured records.

I own the Wand box from the end of the 80s and somehow they get each symphony on one side - sounds ok.

You say you are fond of the piano concertos well, if you haven't already heard them, try listening to Emil Gilels version. I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

Yes! His #2 is best I've ever heard.
 
Its just goes to show how tastes vary - I find the Gilels set lugubrious and dull - mainly I suspect due to Eugen Jochum's conducting. Sviatoslav Richter, Erich Leinsdorf and Chicago Symph. get it right in No.2.

Too many recordings of the 1st piano cto also suffer from over-grandiose tendentiousness. Radu Lupu, Edo de Waart & LPO my favourite there.
 
Its just goes to show how tastes vary - I find the Gilels set lugubrious and dull - mainly I suspect due to Eugen Jochum's conducting. Sviatoslav Richter, Erich Leinsdorf and Chicago Symph. get it right in No.2.

I think the Guilels Brahms 2 people rave about is the one with Reiner and the Chicago SO. I got a nice copy c/o Tony's record shop and it is superb.
 
BPO/Jochum on DG is the one I love. The second movement is a little slow for some, but it works for me. 1st and last movements unsurpassed in my experience.

But ymmv and that's fine by me.
 
Thanks a lot for the comments chaps. I have since acquired the Abbado/BPO DG boxset and find it truly magnificent so far. Same for the Walter/CSO 4th Symphony.

As for the piano concertos, I had the Pollini/Wiener (Abbado 1st; Boehm 2nd) and a recent rendition by Angelich/Frankfurt RSO of the 2nd concert; I enjoy all of them. I have now ordered the Richter CD after your suggestions and I look forward to listening to it. Thank you!
 
You won't go far wrong with the Abbado - like others,I've got loads of individual recordings of the various symphonies, but I keep coming back to Abbado as a whole cycle, he just seems to nail the tempi and mood of these great works to perfection. Enjoy !
 
In my view, the Carlos Kleiber Brahms 4th with the VPO is one of the greatest classical recordings ever made. As a recording it is less than perfect - early digital slight metallic sheen to the sound. But the performance is completely unarguable from first to last.

Can't really disagree, though the SACD was a tad warmer (maybe they toyed with it). Also the "Originals" series tended to be quite bright.

Most of my favourites are mono (Toscanini, Abendroth, de Sabata), so can't be of much help. Abbado's BPO set is very good (and cheap -- crickey, things don't stop getting cheaper, unless they're oop):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00JJ9DZ0U/?tag=pinkfishmedia-21
 
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For a complete cycle, Kubelik on Orfeo. For individual works, probably Giulini with the LAPO for 1 & 2, Walter for 3, and Kubelik/Orfeo for 4.
 
Just bought the Chailly, Gewandhaus set. I thought I needed another set like a hole in the head ( after Mackerras and J.E.G) but I was so taken with Chailly's Leipzig Beethoven cycle that I knew I had to roll over in the end. His Decca, Concertgebouw Brahms Symphony No.1 is my reference point.
 
I am really, really enjoying the 4th by Giulini with the Chicago Symphony orchestra, in spite of somewhat dodgy sound:

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Just bought the Chailly, Gewandhaus set. I thought I needed another set like a hole in the head ( after Mackerras and J.E.G) but I was so taken with Chailly's Leipzig Beethoven cycle that I knew I had to roll over in the end. His Decca, Concertgebouw Brahms Symphony No.1 is my reference point.

So what did you think of it? I thought the 2nd was the star of the show. 4th pretty good too but the overall "heaviness" of the Decca sound detracts a little bit.
 
Only done the first so far. Agree about the sound- and many recording teams have failed to get on top of the Gewandhaus acoustic over the years -but this is a bit surprising. I can hear a clumsy mix of spot miking and auditorium bloom. I prefer his 1990 Decca recording with the Convertgebouw, with this one you have to actually work to listen through the recording. I don't remember the same issues with his recent Beethoven cycle in the same venue, but I'd need to try them side by side.
 
Bernstein's live version of the 4th is fantastic. I'm surprised the OP doesn't like the Kleiber, though, I thought that was also superb on one listen.
 


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