War declared, Israel v Palestine...
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ks.234
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Enfield boy
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Perhaps we should ask Corinne Stockheath, Sebastian Fox, Michael Green....
ks.234
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ks.234
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gavreid
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On this anniversary of the Nakba in 1948 this is a guide to life under the occupation if you are of the 'wrong' race
interactive.aljazeera.com
Palestinian life under Israeli occupation: An illustrated guide
What it's like to be a Palestinian today, with your whole life occupied.
And that is despite the completely pro-Israel and utterly selective mainstream media reporting across the UK!Fantasy land?
MVV
pfm Member
This is so granular, a woman and child’s perspective:
www.theguardian.com
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Hundreds of new shelters set up near Khan Younis as Palestinians flee fighting in Rafah
PaulMB
pfm Member
There should have been further questions:Fantasy land?
1/ "Should Hamas return the hostages for a ceasefire?"
2/ "Do you consider Hamas responsible for casualties in Gaza?"
3/ "Do you consider Hamas responsible for starting the war on October 7?"
Tony L
Administrator
You are clearly radicalised.
Barrymagrec
pfm Member
1/ Yes
2/ Who did the shooting and bombing in Gaza? Hamas or the IDF?
3/ Only setting it off on that date. Israel made the war inevitable and set the conditions.
ks.234
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Totally Irrelevant to your assertion that only a few people support action against Isreal.
Even ignoring the distraction from the point your questions are irrelevant because Israel is refusing a ceasefire, the state of Israel and it’s supporters are responsible for killing thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians, and deliberately targeting women and children in “safe” zones, and is aiding and abetting the stopping of humanitarian aid reaching Gaza.
Oh, and this war did not start on Oct 7th.
ks.234
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Agreed, but as to 1/. What bloody ceasefire?
gavreid
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Election year for Biden trumps the Law in the US:
www.aljazeera.com
US plans to send $1bn in new military aid to Israel: Reports
Request for tank ammunition, tactical vehicles for Israel despite Biden’s earlier pause on bombs over Rafah assault.
US plans to send $1bn in new military aid to Israel: Reports
Request for tank ammunition, tactical vehicles for Israel despite Biden’s earlier pause on bombs over Rafah assault.
droodzilla
pfm Member
To add to your 3rd point:
For Palestinians in the West Bank, 2023 was the deadliest year on record - occupied Palestinian territory
News and Press Release in English on occupied Palestinian territory about Health, Protection and Human Rights and more; published on 15 Dec 2023 by MSF
West Bank, not Gaza.
But yeah, sure, Hamas started it all on October 7th. Before that, everything was tickety-boo.
I've got an extra question that could be added:
4) Do you, like Netanyahu, the Israeli administration, the UK government and a good proportion of Israelis believe Muslim lives are worthless and genocide against them is perfectly acceptable as they are refusing to be further suppressed after decades of what is effectively apartheid?
droodzilla
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Enfield boy
pfm Member
1) And the return of all the child hostages Israel holds. They take 500-700 each year.
2) No, the Nakba has been ongoing since 1948 across all Palestine.
30 No, Palestine was partly taken from the Palestinians in 1948. They had no say in the matter and Zionists have been murdering and stealing ever since. 7/10 was an atrocity but the events that led to that atrocity are Israel's fault.
gavreid
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‘Ethnic cleansing a terrible crime, but genocide even worse: Ilan Pappe
The Israeli historian and author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine says that what happened during the Nakba in 1948 and what’s occurring in Palestine now is comparable in some ways but added that “in many other respects” today’s events are “even worse”.Speaking to Al Jazeera, Ilan Pappe pointed out to the higher number of Palestinians killed in Israeli attacks over the past seven months. He also said that in 1948, “massacres were then used in order to persuade people to leave”.
“What we see now are massacres which are part of the genocidal impulse, namely to kill people in order to downsize the number of people living in Gaza,” Pappe, who is a professor of history at the University of Exeter, added.
“Ethnic cleansing is a terrible crime against humanity but genocide is even worse,” he continued. “So I think we are seeing a transition from using ethnic cleansing as the main method of taking as much of Palestine as possible, with as few Palestinians in it as possible – we are moving into a far more lethal method, that of genocide.”
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gavreid
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ICJ to hear South Africa’s call to stop Israel’s Rafah offensive
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is set to hear South Africa’s petition seeking additional emergency measures ordering Israel to withdraw from Gaza’s Rafah City.The two-day hearings will begin in The Hague at 3pm local time (13:00 GMT) on Thursday.
The demand by South Africa is part of a case it lodged against Israel accusing it of violating the Genocide Convention in Gaza. Israel denies the accusation.
In January, the court issued its first emergency measures in the case, ordering Israel to ensure its troops commit no genocidal acts against Palestinians in Gaza, allow in more humanitarian aid and preserve any evidence of violations.
The hearings on May 16 and 17 will only focus on the additional emergency measures. It will likely take years before the court can rule on the merits of the case.
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Bloody combat continues in northern Jabalia where tens of thousands of civilians have fled ‘extermination zones’.