Witchfinder-general
pfm member
Good timing, was just about to drop £800 on a Naim steamer but its pointless right? A cheapy like CCA will be just as good?
Streamer numpty question
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radamel
Music Fiend
I really doubt it.
Never heard that Naim but a CCA's sound quality is clearly below that of a Bluesound Node 2 (both used as digital transports)
With an iFi SPDIF purifier it gets closer.
Bourneendboy
pfm Member
How does the Purifier work with the CCA? Does the optical double up as COAX?
Julf
Facts are our friends
And what would you ascribe the difference to?
Julf
Facts are our friends
The only way to tell for sure is a double-blind listening test - there will be lots of subjective claims simply because of the difference in price (and brand status).
radamel
Music Fiend
CCA optical out -> Purifier mini optical/ coax in
radamel
Music Fiend
Higher jitter levels in the CCA's digital out.
Have you ever listened/ compared yourself?
Purité Audio
Trade: Purite Audio
radamel
Music Fiend
Archi also thinks that CCA's analogue out is good enough to integrate any good quality HiFi setup. He actually said "It sounds great".
Enough said.
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Guest432
Guest
Audio kit should never be bought based solely on measurements, buy something and if you like it keep it.
If someone likes how the CCA sounds who gives a shit how it measures?????
If someone likes how the CCA sounds who gives a shit how it measures?????
radamel
Music Fiend
Quite right.
Or if it measures perfectly but doesn't sound that good to you, how useful are those measurements?
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Guest432
Guest
You've just described serge on the wam, so blinkered by measurements he doesn't care how it sounds as long as it measures perfectly.
Julf
Facts are our friends
What level of jitter do you think is audible? How do you think input jitter affects modern DACs that isolate the audio (master) clock from the input clock using buffering and ASRC?
I have listened to the CCA, but I guess if I say anything positive about it, you will dismiss me with "Enough said".
Julf
Facts are our friends
"You can discard his measurements because he disagrees with my subjective opinion, so he is clearly wrong about everything".
radamel
Music Fiend
Don't know about what level of jitter is audible. But CCA's jitter effects are audible to me with at least two modern DACs.
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. But if you think that a Chromecast Audio out "sounds great" in a good quality stereo setup and you happen to be a blogger I won't waste any time reading your opinions.
radamel
Music Fiend
Clearly his measurements aren't of any value to me. As I've said before if the CCA measures perfectly but doesn't sound good to me, how useful are those measurements?"You can discard his measurements because he disagrees with my subjective opinion, so he is clearly wrong about everything".
About Archi's opinions about the CCA analogue out sounding great please refer to my earlier post.
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Purité Audio
Trade: Purite Audio
Serge just enjoys transparency , a linear system, others prefer to tailor the sound to their own preference, both are perfectly valid, the output of the CCA is a bit jittery, whether it is audible is another question.
Keith
Arkless Electronics
Trade: Amp design and repairs.
If something measures bad it will sound bad. At very least it will sound "odd" or "wrong" but some like this sort of thing....
OTOH measuring good is no guarantee that it will sound good but should preclude glaringly obvious inaccuracies.
OTOH measuring good is no guarantee that it will sound good but should preclude glaringly obvious inaccuracies.