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Rega RP10 or Technics SL1200G - which should I buy?

Tim Jones said:
I'm sure there's a good rationale here, but out of interest, why is Technics more likely to be around in 30 years time than Rega?
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I suppose it's the legend of 10,000 abused Technics 'DJ' decks that are still circulating after decades of abuse. In the hands of a gentle audiophool, maybe i should have said 100 years? I don't think Rega have that same reputation but the build quality seems reasonable so. Come back in that 30 years and we'll look at some stats.
 
Rockmeister said:
I suppose it's the legend of 10,000 abused Technics 'DJ' decks that are still circulating after decades of abuse.
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No question, the Technics is a solid bit of kit. Rega stuff is well made but you're right, it's not subjected to the same hardships.
 
I think it's useful to have lived in japan to understand the difference in how the phrase 'build quality' is used.
The japanese can be fanatical about the minutiae (as were the Germans once) and the things made there simply are the best you can find IME.
A brief glimpse at other areas of engineering (cars for example) confirms. Look at the top 6 makers of cars with regard to longlevity...trouble free longlevity.
Lexus. Toyota. Mazda. Honda. Subaru. Suzuki. Those old stories of the million mile Volvo, Merc diesel Taxis going over 500,000 miles are true but, not the norm.

anyway.... supper time nearly ;)
 
Rockmeister said:
The japanese can be fanatical about the minutiae and the things made there simply are the best you can find IME.
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Can't take that away from them. Love Japanese stuff but there is a difference between build and performance, at least there can be. Ford Escorts won races but the engine in a Datsun Sunny still worked after 100K miles.
 
I buy Japanese stuff that also performs whenever I can, be they hifi or cars.

One problem with Japanese expensive hifi is the preposterous UK dealer mark ups. For example, the CEC CD transport I want costs $900 if purchased in Japan and over £2,500 if purchased here - WTF.
 
Mr Pig said:
Can't take that away from them. Love Japanese stuff but there is a difference between build and performance, at least there can be. Ford Escorts won races but the engine in a Datsun Sunny still worked after 100K miles.
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Sometimes true although the Japanese have been quite good with Formula One engines and other stuff but anyway I was answering a question about the long levity of a turntable which has nothing to do with how it sounds
 
For long levity you’ll be needing one of these:

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Or for long levitation, a Rockport.
 
Alex S said:
I buy Japanese stuff that also performs whenever I can, be they hifi or cars.

One problem with Japanese expensive hifi is the preposterous UK dealer mark ups. For example, the CEC CD transport I want costs $900 if purchased in Japan and over £2,500 if purchased here - WTF.
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Customs
 
Alex S said:
I buy Japanese stuff that also performs whenever I can, be they hifi or cars.

One problem with Japanese expensive hifi is the preposterous UK dealer mark ups. For example, the CEC CD transport I want costs $900 if purchased in Japan and over £2,500 if purchased here - WTF.
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We have discussed this before haven’t we, belt drive not a great idea for turntables which rotate ( ideally ) at the same rate, definitely not a good idea for variable rate rotation in a cd transport.
Keith
 
Purité Audio said:
Only because they didn’t have the engineering expertise for direct drive.
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I've heard that argument before but I'm not buying it. Yes, in the early days companies like Linn, Systemdek etc might have dismissed direct drive outright because they could not build it but looking at the whole picture you have the best direct drives from Japan competing with belt or idler drives from, well...everywhere else, and who won? If you were to ask reviewers, retailers and whatever industry experts you could find for opinions and compile a list of what are considered to be the best turntables in the world? My bet is that top ten, top twenty, wouldn't be a direct drive among them.

Which kinda destroys the idea that belt drive doesn't work.
 
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