paulfromcamden
Baffled
P.S. that Rick Wakeman was on Bargain Hunt the other day. He was partnered with the singer from M People. If you like prog and you like old tat it might be your sort of thing. I enjoyed it.
Paul,
It's Steve Howe, a Yes bloke.
P.S. that Rick Wakeman was on Bargain Hunt the other day. He was partnered with the singer from M People. If you like prog and you like old tat it might be your sort of thing. I enjoyed it.
Ha! The Violife Greek-style is a fairly good approximation of Feta, and Cathedral City do a tangy mature Cheddar that seems popular .You were doing so well up to that point. There are great vegan burgers, and "chicken". Even pretty passable vegan fish (Gardein) , but I have yet to find good vegan bacon or cheese. That said, much as I miss bacon sandwiches, I'm much happier now that I know I'm not complicit in the torture and killing of pigs.
V bites is pretty good.You were doing so well up to that point. There are great vegan burgers, and "chicken". Even pretty passable vegan fish (Gardein) , but I have yet to find good vegan bacon or cheese. That said, much as I miss bacon sandwiches, I'm much happier now that I know I'm not complicit in the torture and killing of pigs.
Well-said! I feel the same.
Also, OM-2girl & I deeply-enjoyed the set menu here at Tendril https://www.tendrilkitchen.co.uk/ Saturday evening: utterly wonderful.
I don't get the fake product approach to vegi/vegan food, I have said so here before. I can't see the point, because if I want to eat chickpeas I will, and I do. They make great housous, falafel, and if I want to get creative I'll mash them up with some other interesting stuff, make a pattie and fry it. Will I call it a no-beef burger? No, I'll call it a chickpea burger.By suspicious coincidence, left-over tofu bolognese tonight for me.
Does it taste like the real thing? No.
Should it taste like the real thing? Also no.
Does it taste BETTER than the real thing? That's a question of personal taste, but for me, yes.
My wife cooks a few things with tofu, and for me, they taste at least as good as with meat, in fact for my taste, I prefer that slightly less rich flavour.
My point is, that vegetarian or vegan food can be eaten on its own merits. You aren't being denied meat so if you don't look at it that way you won't feel "cheated"
I was discussing the rise of the fake meat burger, and a colleague said that he would feel "cheated", eating a fake product.
The fake meat products are great as far as I'm concerned, but I can see the contradiction in eating something with fake blood oozing out of it.
But small steps...
Cork is also a good alternative,There are plenty of alternatives these days that are virtually indistinguishable from leather. Canvas is also a good alternative for watch straps and belts.
I agree completely; if a real hamburger is considered immoral and physically repulsive, why eat an imitation? Maybe it is like having sex with "A" while pretending it is "B."I don't get the fake product approach to vegi/vegan food, I have said so here before. I can't see the point, because if I want to eat chickpeas I will, and I do. They make great housous, falafel, and if I want to get creative I'll mash them up with some other interesting stuff, make a pattie and fry it. Will I call it a no-beef burger? No, I'll call it a chickpea burger.
Maybe I am wrong to take this approach, as a food manufacturer there's a great living to be made in the fake food market. However if one such manufacturer were to hire me, I'd be an enthuiastic convert.
Are you referring to the Bullingdon pig`s head incident?I agree completely; if a real hamburger is considered immoral and physically repulsive, why eat an imitation? Maybe it is like having sex with "A" while pretending it is "B."
chap i know had poor health , i think relating partially relating to him being a vegan. he gave up but i think the potential damage was done . its only conjecture but i cant see the point of having a diet that needs supplements . seems unatural to meVery interesting, thanks, will have a look. There are also studies that show vegans/vegetarians having better health than others, but I keep an open mind - I'm vegan because I think that the consumption of animal products is unnecessary, and would reconsider if there was good enough evidence to the contrary.
I'm not keen on stuff that is really similar to meat. Fake 'blood'? Ew! A lot of veggies and stuff made into a patty and served in a bun with chips? Yum : )I agree completely; if a real hamburger is considered immoral and physically repulsive, why eat an imitation? Maybe it is like having sex with "A" while pretending it is "B."
chap i know had poor health , i think relating partially relating to him being a vegan. he gave up but i think the potential damage was done . its only conjecture but i cant see the point of having a diet that needs supplements . seems unatural to me
We have been vegetarian since 1971, and we both use leather, especially me with motorbike race leathers. We have no problem with anyone else eating meat or fish, we just decided we didn't want to.A question for vegetarians/vegans. Do you still buy leather goods, such as shoes/wallets/belts and coats?
Are there suitable man made alternatives?
I am not searching for arguments, I am just interested how easy it is, especially with formal shoes?