misterdog
Not the canine kind
Though beauty is more than skin deep, in some cases....
MDAC First Listen (part 00111010)
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Though beauty is more than skin deep, in some cases....
davidjt
pfm Member
In some cases, that's just as well....
Sibbers
Earthling
Pretty confident it was just the original he had involvement in, but you have to assume that it's an evolution from his work and not a total redesign with that name.
JohnW
pfm member
A nice review of the ProJect streamer which is base on our MiniStreamer topology and features a ProJect skinned OEM software build.
The Lakewest Ministreamer / MDAC2 streamer use a Lakewest customized build of the OEM software - so the same setup / usage applies. With the MDAC2 integrated streamer section the Inputs / Digital filters etc. can also be selected via the streamer UI.
The Lakewest Ministreamer / MDAC2 streamer use a Lakewest customized build of the OEM software - so the same setup / usage applies. With the MDAC2 integrated streamer section the Inputs / Digital filters etc. can also be selected via the streamer UI.
Pity it has no support for Qobuz, and roon is “in progress”.
That is not true, it now also supports Qobuz and Roon also works!
Fair enough. The website is not correct. When you say “supports Qobuz” what do you mean? Is there an app you can use on an iPad to get music to play through the streamer? If so, which app? What else do you need running?
Yes there is an iOS app, which gives you a nice icon you can start it from.
But you can also get the same UI from a browser on a laptop.
I have not tried Qobuz (not a classical fan), but I guess it works just like the Tidal and Spotify integration. Think a bit like LMS.
It also unofficially supports DSD512 from Roon, at least that is what I have been doing the last six month
But you can also get the same UI from a browser on a laptop.
I have not tried Qobuz (not a classical fan), but I guess it works just like the Tidal and Spotify integration. Think a bit like LMS.
It also unofficially supports DSD512 from Roon, at least that is what I have been doing the last six month
Yes there is an iOS app, which gives you a nice icon you can start it from.
But you can also get the same UI from a browser on a laptop.
I have not tried Qobuz (not a classical fan), but I guess it works just like the Tidal and Spotify integration. Think a bit like LMS.
It also unofficially supports DSD512 from Roon, at least that is what I have been doing the last six month
afaik the Qobuz iOS app just plays on the iPad/iPhone itself. And the laptop app needs you to be at the laptop to control it. I would want to use my iPad to get Qobuz to play through the Project streamer. I can do this with iPeng and my Touch; you can do it with an Auralic streamer with their Lightning stuff. I am still trying to find out how I could do it with this Project streamer.
The pro-ject app is a remote just like iPeng and Auralic Lightning stuff. If you are not using Roon then it is also the server just like the Auralic Aries.
JohnW
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Sorry, sadly I don't have a close relationship with ProJect (Its not like it was with the guys at Audiolab UK with the original MDAC release)...
The Ministreamer is available, but numbers are limited as we concentrate our efforts on MDAC2 design goals.
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JohnW
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For regular progress updates please join the closed FB group:-
https://www.facebook.com/groups/186775815400428/?ref=bookmarks
Theres an awful lot of project info posted in the group - I'm currently working on the Clock section, over the weekend I've been working on the Clock PSU design.
Thanks Tony & good call since this is the Forum/Thread used by John Westlake to collect funds by PFM members including myself (£700 where I've managed to recover £480).
Abandoning the PFM members who's been funding his adventure for +5 years is a real shame.
Below is an inaccurate list of PFM members who funded the initial development of MDAC2, 141 + 33 PFM members. A conservative estimate gives 174 * £400 = £69 600 collected from PFM members. Note that the list is old and Detox and Streamer funding is not included.
Pledges to support with monthly installments
- pkerai (atleast Toy, maybe Fusion).
- tunkejazz (New condition salvaged M-DAC unit with Mainboard swapped for Next Generation and Fusion resistors, BLACK)
- steve-g - Black unit
- flahutbux - Black unit (Original to MDAC MK2 Toy, incl. DSD and AV bypass)
- killie9
- Space is the Place (new condition salvaged MDAC in silver with next gen mainboard and Toy resistors)
- StephenB (L3 FDAC caps and phono - full Bhuna)
- DANOFDANGER
- dtd - new silver unit, fusion + DSD
- LarsS
- fred sonnen (black)(2x 9018, 786Fs & DSD support)(Fusion)
- MajorMajor
- anjora (new salvaged silver unit, fusion, L3)
- KevinNZ
- misterdog (with integrated Cappuccino dispenser)
- sam_cat (2x Fusion)
- Akasha (New Condition salvaged silver unit)
- amershamman
- GWM
- AlanH (New Condition salvaged Silver unit, Toy resistors)
- vincey103
- MatiasN (New condition salvaged M-DAC unit (black)+ Toy)
- Bob L (prefer new condition salvaged MDAC in black, if available, with next gen mainboard and toy resistors)
- lapkwan
- mavwong (new condition salvaged MDAC in black with next gen mainboard and fusion resistors)
- moosemeat (MDAC MK2 PCB + Toy)
- Mikas
- ArthurG (Orignal unit Black,Mk2 PCB + Toy upgrade)
- trevjm (+ Toy)
- clerenlas (next generation mainboard + Toy (just poss Fusion), AV bypass, back panel colour black)
- mnewbould (New M-DAC unit (black) with Mainboard swapped for Next Generation + Fusion)
- ducatiman
- Achim, full Fusion PCB (full package "L3" with DSP and input etc.)
- Minton (Fusion + Salvaged silver unit)
- clivew
- mig
- Obi1 (New Condition salvaged Silver unit, Fusion Option, resistors shipped to John already)
- timberline
- PavelPinkFish
- Django (MDAC MK2 PCB + Fusion)
- Manimal
- rmgalley (Existing silver case, MDAC2 with Fusion option - and later the wide case with CD transport)
- Valpe (New M-DAC unit (black) with Mainboard swapped for Next Generation + Fusion + AV bypass)
- Tiberius (new PCB + Toy upgrade)
- Traf (Mk2 PCB + Toy upgrade - happy to diy swap)
- mbaudis (new or new condition salvaged unit silver + Toy)
- jo sharp mdac2 + toy resistors
- Ben2876 (Fusion MDAC2)
- Tonyb
- Trevski220
- ddenyer + toy
- justoffjustin
- hluga (John you got my Toy resistors !! L3 MM/MC)
- rbroer (Salvaged M-DAC unit with MK2 PCB + Toy)
- Noddy213 (MDAC Mk2 PCB + Fusion)
- cjayc DSD Fusion and balanced HP
- ag66 (MDAC MK2 PCB + Toy)
- TimR (DSP version + Black salvaged unit +fusion +AV bypass + spare MDAC2 silver back panel, + spare MDAC1 black back panel)
- Sonic_D (MDAC MK2 PCB + Toy)
- Shaolin (MDAC MK2 PCB + Toy)
- rudyv1 (MDAC MK2 PCB + Fusion)
- Vinz (MDAC MK2 PCB + Toy - Silver)
- pix (new silver unit + toy)
- jansen (new salvaged silver mdac2, L3)
- ChrisPa - mk2 PCB (or reprocessed full unit) + Toy
- pach1606-mk2 PCB +fusion
- whitehead
- adeware (MDAC MK2 PCB + Toy)
- Boozyuzi
- ocarolina (salvaged black unit, mk2 pcb + fusion)
- Dodeth (Toy)
- haridhos
- The_Bear (with Toy upgrade)
- LittleToast (Next Gen mainboard with Fusion option)
- timow (Next Generation PCB, will decide later between toy or fusion option, original unit black)
- supersilent (Next Gen mainboard with Fusion option)
- PeterZ
- JSSH (mk2 pcb + toy option)
- ukpd (Black Panel)
- desp_erado (Black Salvaged MDAC with AV Pass Through + Toy)
- Asphaltradler
- cstanpfm (mk2 PCB + fusion)
- Adaptivemotion (New salvaged silver MDAC + MDAC MK2 PCB + Fusion + two European mains plugs)
- highfi
- gugi100 (Salvaged M-DAC unit with MK2 PCB + Toy)
- rober
- Roberto
- myrddin (pcb + fusion)
- banjoman (Black MDAC - L3 please)
- 99CZL (Black) Toy (or Fusion, not decided yet) + XLR balanced headphone connection
- tto (Toy)
- vanwykca (new silver with mk2 PCB and Toy)
- Sebbyp Fusion option
- tomisiv (Black salvaged MDAC2 with Toy)
- jiminsd
- rundll32 (
Salvaged black mdac, Next gen mobo, AV bypass, Fusion option, self-upgrade)
- alloja (Next Generation PCB, Toy option, AV bypass, original unit silver)
- SirBenn21 L2 MDAC2
- TheRyge
- stellablues
- russel
- Nick1881
- Radyson
- Stuart Frazer (PCB + Fusion)
- JBoy (salvaged black M-DAC unit + Fusion resistor)★
- giannitom (salvaged black M-DAC unit + Toy resistor)
- djvitamind (Next Generation mainboard with Fusion option)
- Wardi23 silver finish
- greyrab black finish MDAC MK2 PCB + Fusion
- titepa (Orignal unit Black, MK2 PCB + Toy upgrade)
- FUSION5 (? resistors)
- peterzz (salvaged black + Toy resistors)
- Alavan (MK2 PCB + toy for existing black MDAC)
- ttier (salvaged 'as new' M-DAC, black, 115V)
- Rune (PCB + Fusion)
- Suopermanni (PCB + Toy maybe fusion + DSP)
- mcai7et2 (PCB + Toy, maybe fusion)
- carloica (PCB L2) Silver Version
- bigbuckyball (L3, toy, maybe fusion)
- koyiz (PCB L3 black)
- Lowand (PCB + Toy, maybe Fusion)
- Rosewind (salvaged black MDAC + "L3" version with best sensible Vishay configuration).
- HifiPicco (salvaged silver MDAC with "german" psu (if possible) + Fusion option, most probable also ... DSP + Bluetooth + Analogue attenuator + ADC)
- kjelld DSP+ Bluetooth + Analogue attenuator + Hi Performance ADC + Toy
- sprint (Black MDAC. Most likely Basic unit + DSP + Bluetooth + Analogue attenuator + Hi Performance ADC with Toy/Fusion option to be decided)
- Eeerni (salvaged MDAC + Toy option)
- slacktavist (PCB + TOY )
- Paolo Anziano (L4 Version with Toy/Fusion to be decided. Original black MDAC)
- Bizxo (L2 version with Toy/Fusion. Original black MDAC)
- ti33er AVBypass and The very Best Of your Design please - BLACK MDAC2
- jimsmy (L3)
- mike9876 L2 maybe L3 options to be decided.
- stunsworth L2 or L3, probably with Fusion option
- stefanolo (L2, internal PSU prefered, black, rest depends...)
- flambeur
- Kryptonian / Richard Orchard L3 + wifi
- Neil A (MDAC2 L3 PCB + Toy + Fusion + DSP)
- rjpcardoso (L2 or L3 + best resistors)
- toozeup (L3 + wifi)
- FlipnFill The very best of your design please
- Timola (MDAC2 L3 with best resistors in the new full size chassis with remote controller)
- JTC (L2 Toy to MDAC MK2 "at cost" conversion)
- Arthur (L2 to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- PlutoX (Toy to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- PhilCTTE (Fusion to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion,)
- JohanH (Fusion to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- FUSION5 (Fusion to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion, payment in advance possible to fund operation)
- Joke721 (Toy to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- MattN (Fusion to L3 MDAC (L2 + ADC) with "at cost" conversion -
- iansr (Salvaged MDAC required, divert £50 payment for bypass to PCB leaving balance of £75)
- Malyq (Toy [Fusion] to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- Akasha (Toy to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- 00fiete (L2 to L2 MDAC MK2 "at cost" conversion, black unit)
- EIffel (Toy [Fusion] to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion (Salvaged MDAC (preferably Silver) /new PCB)
- Sq225917 (Just pcb will home upgrade.)
- Ale79 (L2 "Multicom" MDAC to FUSION MDAC MK2)
- jirij (
Toy to MDAC Mk2 Toy/Fusionsalvaged black MDAC)
- Richard Kimber (Fusion to MDAC Mk2 Fusion "at cost" conversion)
- mnewbould (Toy [Fusion] to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion + £50 advance Credit for the MDAC2)
- travelfotografe (new condition salvaged silver M-DAC, upgrade to "Flagship" spec'ed version :-> )
- wintoid (Toy to Fusion MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion, or possibly salvaged MDAC)
- JemHayward (will have refurb MDAC (silver, but could change my mind later...) with new pcb, and full fusion spec - analogue input etc.. etc...no compromises!)
- ajr37 (Fusion to MDAC Mk 2 Fusion)
- Vaughan (L2 Toy to MDAC MK2 "at cost" conversion)
- mark.king
- Steven Toy (L3 Toy to MDAC MK2 "at cost" conversion)
- Yanntoe (L2 to MDAC MK2, L3 "at cost" conversion)
- jarip (salvaged silver unit + Toy/Fusion)
- simonom (L2 Toy to MDAC MK2 "at cost" conversion)
- pack (Toy to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- uwe061 (Fusion to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- rtrt
- therixonator (Toy to MDAC Mk2 "at cost" conversion)
- halook
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