NickofWimbledon
pfm Member
It has been suggested that this opinions and advice on LP12s should probably have their own thread.
Vigorous exchanges on the virtues of LP12s seem to often turn up in other threads, not always helping to answer the question asked.
In addition, while most old lags here will already know what they think, I was reminded just today that there are newer contributors who might like to hear some pragmatic commentary and simple explanation of the pros and cons on LP12 instead of treating them as some arcane mystery.
The fact that LP12s divide consensus as much as the relevance of valves after 1970 or CD versus LP versus streaming or electrostatic speakers ever did is probably a bit intimidating for anyone who wants to find out for the first time (but without having one in front of them) what all the fuss is about.
Does anyone want to comment on such a thread?
Is every LP12 the embodiment of musical perfection, amazingly over-priced/ musically dreadful/ an outdated rip-off of an old Ariston, or somewhere in between?
Which of the hundreds of variations on the theme of plinth, sub-chassis, bearing, arm, cartridge and PS (old or new) make sense and which are best avoided?
How much does it actually matter what’s under an LP12?
Is it actually ok to spend (say) £2K on an LP12 off eBay?
To what extent has the much-mentioned ‘character’ been fixed in the last 30 years and is that good or bad?
Which third-party bits make sense?
If contributors do nothing else, can we at least agree that this thread is the obvious place for people to explain/ comment on/ decry/ eulogise over LP12s as a specific topic?
If yes, should we all (including me) try to avoid having those exchanges in threads where we risk (a) just trotting out the old arguments with new words and (b) messing up other discussions?
Vigorous exchanges on the virtues of LP12s seem to often turn up in other threads, not always helping to answer the question asked.
In addition, while most old lags here will already know what they think, I was reminded just today that there are newer contributors who might like to hear some pragmatic commentary and simple explanation of the pros and cons on LP12 instead of treating them as some arcane mystery.
The fact that LP12s divide consensus as much as the relevance of valves after 1970 or CD versus LP versus streaming or electrostatic speakers ever did is probably a bit intimidating for anyone who wants to find out for the first time (but without having one in front of them) what all the fuss is about.
Does anyone want to comment on such a thread?
Is every LP12 the embodiment of musical perfection, amazingly over-priced/ musically dreadful/ an outdated rip-off of an old Ariston, or somewhere in between?
Which of the hundreds of variations on the theme of plinth, sub-chassis, bearing, arm, cartridge and PS (old or new) make sense and which are best avoided?
How much does it actually matter what’s under an LP12?
Is it actually ok to spend (say) £2K on an LP12 off eBay?
To what extent has the much-mentioned ‘character’ been fixed in the last 30 years and is that good or bad?
Which third-party bits make sense?
If contributors do nothing else, can we at least agree that this thread is the obvious place for people to explain/ comment on/ decry/ eulogise over LP12s as a specific topic?
If yes, should we all (including me) try to avoid having those exchanges in threads where we risk (a) just trotting out the old arguments with new words and (b) messing up other discussions?